On the recommendation of a few threads here. I bought 10 cases of Bordeaux from internetwines.com. A 2016 Ferriere I opened was “like spring water” according to a fellow taster. No fruit, no acid, no tannin, nobody home at all. Last night I tried to redeem myself and brought a 2019. It was corked. I’m not excited about opening up any of the other 10.
Has anyone had issues with the 16 or 19 (or 20, I have 4 of them too) Ferrieres?
thanks,
jim
10 cases or 10 bottles?
Edit never mind im guessing you bought more than just the ferriere
I think I bought from the same recommendation from the same person. Have yet to try the '16 but the '19 I tried was rather uneventful to me, honestly. Came across simple, fruit-forward and a bit glossy, which is odd because that person, the revered Bordeaux lover that he is, hates glossy wines.
It’s possible you need a yak palate to enjoy it
Or perhaps you need to start with a couple large pours of whiskey with lots of ice
A 2020 was pretty amazing recently, but from a different retailer.
sorry to hear, many 2016 are still drinking young, but it sounds faulty. Not a nice feeling with large quantity.
On another note. I am drinking through a case of 1975 and they are drinking great 
BM. I have also bought 6 x 2016 and 2019 from the same retailer. 1 of each was opened and similar to Todd were ok but nothing special (2019 better than 16) - figured they need some time.
Clearly y’all fools were listening to the wrong critics, visionaries and diarists, when you should have been following the Man of Bordeaux!
April 29, 2017 - Medium-bodied and floral in character, the wine is correct with lean, spicy fruits though it lacks in complexity.
This is who we were listening to
I have never said those things! It’s a Burgundian Hoax to lure wonderful people away from the amazing successes of recent big beautiful Bordeaux vintages (BBBV). You should stop being a little piggy and making everything wallow in the mud, when my fields are verdant, my fruits are ripe and plump, and my stems are always included and never filtered. We are returning BBBV back to the good old days of yore. Back to the great vintages of the 1980s when there was less regulation and BBBV was everywhere. Let them eat Black Forrest Cake and pair with Bordeaux in gold-leaf adorned and massive ballrooms everywhere!
Today, Ferriere is making much better wines. 2018 marks a renaissance for the property.
I thought he was a whisky drinker.
I can only speak for the 19 which I had 2 years ago and thought had a lot of potential so bought more…
I loaded up on the 19 when Costco had the crazy deals on 2019 Bdx. No note but I recall really liking the one bottle I tried in 2023. The last Ferriere I had before that was the 2000 (in like 2005) and I remember it being a wall of tannin.
I’ve not had the 16, but pros like WK, NM, and AG were quite fond of the 2019, as was I. Plus, at $32, the 2019 was a tremendous value.
FWIW, here’s my note on the 2019, written in 2023:
cool, mineral, iodine-infused nose, with sweet notes of black cherry confit. Linear but hinting at deeper layering, cranberries, loganberries, quite pure, lightly tannic (for its age) on the finish… this is smashing, especially at <$40, needs 7-10 years but I think this will drink well “young”.
I quite liked the 16 and the 19, have not had one in a year or so but could now be in a dumb phase?
Todd, I think Robert just misspelled derriere. He’s got an issue. Common to Florida men
POTY candidate. 
I had the 2016 a year and a half ago, liked it a lot, bought more (all were from a local retailer in NY that had stored it since release, and from whom I’ve bought some older stuff with excellent provenance). But my preference generally runs towards lighter wines, particularly things in a more red fruited style with lower alcohol and this was right in my wheelhouse. This was my original tasting note from last year (and it pains me slightly to repost it to again say that @Robert.A.Jr was right.)
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