Why do I hear so rarely about these wines? The reds are beautifully crafted - lifted, ethereal, and above all delicious. I’m a sucker for high proportions of whole cluster, and while (as of ~3 months ago) I am thoroughly priced out of Arnoux-Lachaux, these wines aren’t so far behind.
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I agree, very nice wines (that need a fair bit of time), they dont own any dirt in sexy areas so tend to get overlooked
While that used to be the case, I think the wines are pretty approachable young nowadays - this post was spurred by the glass of 2019 Ile des Vergelesses rouge that I have in front of me currently! Think their holdings certainly contribute to their being overlooked - but these are just fundamentally good wines IMO.
That is the wine of theirs that I buy every year, might have to crack one…
Yes…and we like it that way. Nothing to see here.
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I love the Corton Bressandes from Chandon de Briailles, if you ever come across ‘93 at reasonable price, just buy as many as you can get.
If you like whole-clusters - in the perfumed sense, not in the gothic sense - then CdB have been as good as it gets and super consistent since at least 2016. In the 90s and 2000s they were good but much less consistent…
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Also a fan of the Marechaudes.
Bowl of cherries
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I really enjoy their style and am wondering now why I own so little.
Didn’t know that they do it with whole clusters. Perhaps, that’s why I liked the limited sampling I’ve had from this property. Enjoyed the 2002 Corton Bressandes and the 05/06 Ile des Vergeleses that I’m glad to still be sitting on.
I’m not sure what the regime was 20 years ago, but these days it’s very high proportions of whole cluster in all the wines (80%+)
I’m a big fan, and when I recently inventoried my wine cellar, I was surprised that this producer is in my top five of total holdings, especially their 2005’s.
Their wines show an Old World purity and soil-to-bottle honesty.
Their wines are very long-lived. I recently served the 2005 and 2006 Corton Bressandes together, and neither was “ready”.
I was fortunate to have attended a dinner here in NYC in 2019 with Claude de Nicolay, the winemaker. We drank their Corton going back to the 1990s.
On social media, you can see their traditional methods, including using horses and not machinery in the vineyards.
I am not shocked that these wines are not more popular. I first visited CdB in 2007 at the recommendation of John Gilman. When tasting their young wines at the winery, I thought the wines were good not great. But, a couple of nights later I found the 1999 Ile des Vergelesses on the wine list at a restaurant in Beaune. Then, with a wine that had a bit of age (and from a great vintage), I got it. Oh, this is what the wines I had will become with time. Since that night I have been a fan of the wines.
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We drank 06 Les Verg last week. Needs time.
Don’t get me started on 05s. I’m still sitting on Savigny Village.
We have visited a number of times, and are saving an 85 Marechaudes for a special anniversary.
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we dont hear about these because theyre terrible no one should every buy them in fact you didnt even see this post please move on.
I like these wines a lot
Please delete this thread asap!
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In my experience, the wines have been very good and consistent since long before 2016. Unfortunately, but probably justifiably, the domaine has raised prices consistently and significantly since approximately 2014, to the point that the long-time California importer dropped the domaine. That said, the 2016 Corton-Bressandes would have many Cote de Nuits grand cru running and diving for cover.
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Non-commercial post: My friend, winemaker Jeff Carrel, has been consulting here since (iirc) 2009.
The 2009 Corton Blanc is easily among the five best white wines I have had in the past five years.
No flies on the reds, and the Ile de Vergelesses is consistently excellent and good value in today’s Burgundy market.
Dan Kravitz
“Consistently excellent and good value in today’s Burgundy market” also applies to the while Ile des Vergelesses, when you can find it. IIRC, they are the only source of white wine from that vineyard.
As for the prices, it looks like the grands crus have seen some escalation, but the increases on the premiers crus has been very tame compared to what we’re seeing elsewhere in burgundy. Last year I bought any was 2015 — but that was the last year I bought any burgundy; going to have my work cut out finishing the wine I’ve got in the cellar already.