Californians, need road trip advice

So in September I have two occasions that I need to be in LA for, ten days apart. I haven’t been to CA before so my wife and I would like to take the chance to hit some of the sites and explore. Our trip is starting to come together but I’d like some thoughts on how to spend a few days.

Here’s what’s already booked:
-We start in LA, with a wedding on the 19th.
-She flies out of SF on the 26th and is very excited about exploring there. We have 3 nights booked there, starting the 23rd.
-I have two days booked near Yosemite after, then a place to stay in Santa Monica until I have to be back in Anaheim for a conference on the 30th.

So basically we need to fill the 20th-23rd. We for sure want to hit some time in Sonoma, but I am not sure if on the way up it is worth stopping in SLO or Carmel for a bit, and am not sure what town to stay in in Sonoma. I think I have ruled out Healdsburg because it’s not really close to wineries we want to visit (primarily Bedrock and Extradimensional, but also would book others depending on how much time we have).

Main questions:
- Is SLO worth a stop on the drive up for lunch?
**- Is it worth staying a night in Carmel on our trip up the coast? **
- What town should we stay in in Sonoma/Napa? Looking for a mix of food/options for places to stay/interesting center of town area
- If stopping in Carmel, 1 night there and 2 nights in wine country, or vis versa?

here’s what Im thinking:

Sept 20- SLO for quickish lunch, then evening in Carmel (dinner and explore)
Sept 21- Point Lobos, Big Sur, dinner in Carmel
Sept 22- leave early, get to Petaluma, try to get tasting at Pax or Enfield, dinner Petaluma
Sept 23- Hopefully taste at Bedrock and Extradimensional, lunch between, then drive into SF for hotel check in and dinner?

Would that work logistically? I keep being reminded that driving in CA is longer than it looks like it’d be on Maps.

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Kind of depends on where you’re starting in LA. It could take you 2 hours just to get through the city in the morning on your way out of town, making lunch in SLO difficult.

Overall, that schedule seems awfully tight to me, but a lot of people run tighter schedules than we do.

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You’re going to bypass a lot of good wine and fun towns in Santa Barbara County, Paso, etc to stay in Carmel which based on personal experience isn’t really all that.

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Matt, a bit busy today, but I’ll chime in with thoughts later, or tomorrow.

We like staying in Carmel because you can walk to dinner and the town gets quiet at night.

Also for yosemite feel it is a much more unique experience to enter through the 140 entrance(merced) as your first views are directly up the valley

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Your plan backtracks - Carmel, then down to Big Sur/Pt Lobos, then up to Petaluma.
I’d probably choose Cambria over the town of SLO and drive up the 1, so you can see Pt Lobos and Big Sur on your way to Carmel.
Moonstone Beach has nice oceanfront hotels and Sea Chest is good (not fancy, cash only) but other options are nearby if you want fancy.
I tend to stay somewhere different every time I visit Sonoma so I don’t have much input.

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In addition to what @Mattstolz suggested to see near Carmel (Point Lobos is especially nice early morning and late afternoon) also consider Monterey Bay Aquarium. We have visited Carmel about a dozen times and it’s nice but it is also sort of boring: art galleries, restaurants, wall-to-wall tourists walking about. It’s the beaches and Point Lobos that are interesting – tide pools on low tide are especially great at the pull-outs along 17 mile drive (which is a toll road) and the views during the drive are great. Consider a stop at Hearst Castle for a tour which is a fun window into how the 1% live, but a one-hour tour will consume about 3 hours (shuttle from parking lot to the house).

Skip SLO.

Downtown Sonoma is nice; downtown Napa has less ‘wine town’ vibe and a more ‘city’ vibe. (Healdsburg has them both beat for vibe.)

@Andrew_K has a good point that leaving LA can take a long time. Be sure to use the Google Maps “Leave At” feature to get a handle on expected drive time.

Similarly, leaving bay area (to get near Yosemite) can be slow during commute times.

We think Moonstone is a little hidden gem and can be used as a base for Paso.

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Understandable. I hadn’t really thought about traffic out of LA- do you think it’ll be an issue early on a Sunday? We’re OK to get up and going early enough to beat traffic if needed

Any cant miss suggestion towns? Funny enough given that this is WineBerserkers, my wife and I are both OK if this isnt a totally wine-centric trip and we only taste for a day or two- we havent been drinking much lately anyways. Would rather hit fun towns with good food and drink wine if its around for most of the trip (besides in Sonoma)

Im just wanting to make sure I understand your suggestion: are you saying stop in Cambria for an overnight and then also do an overnight in Carmel? Or to consider Cambria in place of Carmel completely? I see your point on backtracking- I was kinda imagining if our base is still Carmel for that day then whether we drive a half hour north or south doesn’t make a ton of difference…. Would you say it does?

For good combos of fun, shopping, walking, drinking:
Santa Barbara and SLO are the biggest and offer the most
Cambria and Paso are next. So many good wines. Downtown Paso is cute, but not as big as SB and SLO.
We like the Stables Inn in Paso. Cambria is small, but is the gateway to Moonstone.
Los Olivos for tasting and tri tips sandwiches

If the weather is at the very least overcast and not pea soup fog in the area, and you stay the night or pass through Cambria instead of SLO, and and get to drive through the entirety of Big Sur to Carmel, you’ll see a lot more of Big Sur than driving 1/2 hour to the south of Cambria.
If you can stay overnight in Cambria, and make an early-ish departure, you’ll get plenty of time to explore (you might find yourself stopping/looking at views every 1/2 mile if you like views) and arrive in Carmel in the afternoon. If you have the time IMO it’s easily some of the nicest and undeveloped coastline all of in CA.
Re: fog - I sailed through Big Sur to Morro Bay in the early 00s and it was about 20 yard visibility from Monterey to around Bixby Bridge.

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Definitely drive the 1 both up to and north of San Francisco, and don’t miss Big Sur or Point Reyes. I would skip SLO and Carmel. I love the Anderson Valley and would pick that over most of Sonoma (and definitely Napa!). In fact you could drive the 1 all the way north to Elk/Navarro Beach (you probably don’t have the time to go further up the Mendocino coast, unfortunately, or I’d recommend that) and then turn inland to take the 128 through Anderson Valley back south to Sonoma/SFO.
If you have time, try to visit Columbia when you’re headed to Yosemite. It’s a gold-rush era town which lost out to Sacramento to become California’s capital, and stayed small but very well preserved (and has the best fly-in-only campground!).
There are so many state and national parks in California that I could recommend but that would take months if not years of time to explore.

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I’m not sure this is doable; it certainly doesn’t seem pleasurable to me- trying to squeeze way too much in. You’ll be rushing every step of the way until you get to San Francisco. Seems like 5 countries in 7 days on a European trip.

Then two days of driving just for one day in Yosemite.

There could be lots of traffic on route 1 as well as in LA.

Choose either a leisurely drive up over 2-3 days or 3 days in Sonoma.

Just realize the place you are rushing g get to isn’t really nicer than the place you are leaving from (excluding LA perhaps). And you are rushing past great places.

Another day in SF sounds better than another very long drive on the road.

Yosemite sounds like it’s beyond overcrowded now that they’ve done away with reservations.

If I read this right, you’ll leave LA on the 20th, have that day and 2 more before getting in to SF on the 23rd.

We have done this drive many, many times. At this point, we almost never try to do it in one day (in which case we would drive up 5). Instead, we have been breaking the trip up, stopping in various places along hwy 101. So I can give you my suggestions based on our experience and preferences. As Andrew mentioned, depending on where you’re starting from in LA, you could see some ugly traffic up the 405, and along 101 through the valley, and even along the coast through Oxnard and Camarillo. SLO is a reasonable destination for the first night, though I will say we prefer Santa Barbara. More interesting town, a lot more restaurants to choose from, and right on the ocean.

Carmel: if you haven’t been there, it’s a gem. Very cute, cool small town, very touristy, but fun to walk around. Also right on the ocean, you can walk or drive along the coast and get some nice scenery (and amazingly expensive real estate). Lots of restaurants. Not a nightlife place, but there are some places to go if you want.

An option between SB (or SLO) and Carmel is to drive up hwy 1 through Big Sur. One of the most impressive scenic drives you can do anywhere (though a bit windy, with some cliff exposure, though that’s not a factor driving north). Amazingly, it’s only about 45 minutes more to drive 1 than 101 to Carmel.

If it was me, I’d drive to SB, then Carmel, then SF. Spend 2 nights in either SB or Carmel on the way (for me it would be Carmel, from where you can drive and enjoy 17 mile drive, have lunch at Pebble Beach lodge, check out Monterey and Cannery Row if you want to play tourist, etc). LA to SB is an easy drive, even with some traffic, giving you time to explore the town in the afternoon before dinner. Next day (21) drive to Carmel via 1, if you get an early start stop at Nepenthe for lunch, then cruise into Carmel. Dinner in Carmel. Next day (22) cruise around Carmel, take 17 mile drive, have lunch at Pebble Beach, dinner back in Carmel, or Monterey if you like. On the 23rd drive to SF from Carmel. It’s a weekday, so more traffic, but you’ll do it mid-day and be OK.

And crap, I forgot your main destination is Sonoma, so throw all that away, unless I can convince you to give up Sonoma and do Carmel. Which is what I would do :wink: Unless your wife is equally a wine geek as you, Carmel is the better place.

If you really want Sonoma, stay there. Healdsburg is a solid hour farther north. Sonoma is cute, has good places to eat, is that much closer for getting back to SF.

Yosemite: when you say “near Yosemite”, I assume that means outside the park. Be wary that a certain administration has eliminated all restrictions on entering the park (which has for some time required reservations to enter, in order to control crowds, maintain adequate parking, etc.). Some of the stories I’ve seen are scary for crowds, like hours long lines to drive in (note that there is an entrance fee), no parking, or people parking anywhere and everywhere they shouldn’t. By late September that should hopefully be more calm, but keep an eye on things. If you’re outside the park, get a very early start on your way in.

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Our experience in Carmel:
A nice beach that stretches to Pebble Beach.
2-3 good restaurants
A downtown that can be browsed in 30 minutes
That’s about it. If you throw in Monterey, things expand a bit.

As a Berserker you should really take in some of 100’s of wineries you’ll drive past. C’mon. You owe it to yourself.

I’ve seen some very terrible lines in videos on Instagram. I’ve also seen some comments from people who go a lot saying it’s still fine even now getting in assuming you get there early. I’m also hoping beginning of the season is a little worse than later in the season- but if not then I’ll think about pivoting to Sequoia and Kings Canyon. Im booked at a place that Maps says is 12 min from the entrance and have a park pass. So hoping that helps.

I hear you. But we’re at the point in our drinking and buying that I’d rather taste with friends and people I know and have followed for a while. At our current drinking pace I already have enough wine for two lifetimes, I’d rather have the relationships. Thats not to discount the wineries we’ll drive by- I KNOW we’re passing some great ones. But the other places we’re going (especially SF, national parks, Sonoma wineries) are what we’re really doing the road trip for.

I do like where your heads at though. And I love all the suggestions of stops along the coast. Especially given thats the part im so not sure about. Keep em coming!

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You’ll get lots of recommendations reflecting everyone’s biases and favorites. You wont be able to do everything so just pick what sounds good to you and enjoy it. This is a magical place those of us out here get to call home. Enjoy every minute of what ever route you choose. There’s so much to see and do. Its all great

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Give it a break, Baum, everyone knows California is a hell hole, overrun by rats, pestilence, plague, locusts, and gas station sushi. No one in their right mind would visit here, let alone live here.

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