About the Ciapusci Vineyard. The current list is showing 1901 but…
both the Edmeades web site & the bottle’s back label states that the vineyard was planted in 1878.
(oldest in the county). Of course Jess Jackson owns it.
Dispute what? They’re open about what fruit comes from what areas. An easy way to put it is it’s all one estate, but multiple vineyards. (It’s certainly not an AVA.)
Yes, some of the other wineries have put “Monte Bello” or “Montebello” on their labels (ie. Vidovich, Generosa, Fellom Ranch).
- Bacchi Ranch, RRV, Carlise? Carlisle has not produced from this vineyard since '05. Any ideas as to who is using these grapes today?
- Biagi, RRV Any input on Biagi?
- Ciapusci, Mendocino, Edmeades Winery I heard that Edmeades will no longer purchase these grapes?
- Midway Ranch, RRV Any knowledge on Midway?
- Oat Valley, Alexander Valley, Ridge, an ATP Carignane bottleing Will check with David Gates.
- Story “Picnic Hill”, Amador, Story Winery Yes - thanks Sean!!!
- T.C. Vineyard, Amador Thoughts?
Discovered a new historic vineyard today - Gaddis, RRV, planted in 1903.
Chronicle Wines produces the zinfandel and it is reputed to be very good. Did you ever wonder what Ted Lemon (Littorai) could do with old vine zinfandel grapes? Here is your ticket:
This article from today’s Contra Costa Times illustrates the challenge that historic vineyards are facing: http://www.contracostatimes.com/search/ci_14732533?IADID=Search-www.contracostatimes.com-www.contracostatimes.com
Just got back from a journey away from wine, and have missed a couple weeks of comments.
Ridge’s Oat Valley Carignane came from the Cooley Ranch. I don’t recall a bottling since before 2000. Oat Valley is on Hiway 128 as it goes NW from Cloverdale toward the Anderson Valley. The Sink family are still there after arriving about 1858, and the Cooley family still own land there after arriving about 1867, but I think all the really old vines have been pulled out. But I have no hard knowledge. If I can get it, I will post it.
Good info Dave. The Ridge website tasting note archive has notes for '94, '95 & '96. I drank my last Oat Valley maybe 5-6 years ago but can’t remember anything special about it.
Sean Devaney:
- Bacchi Ranch, RRV, St. Francis!
- Biagi, RRV Any input on Biagi?
- Ciapusci, Mendocino, Edmeades Winery I heard that Edmeades will no longer purchase these grapes?
- Midway Ranch, RRV Any knowledge on Midway?
- Oat Valley, Alexander Valley, Ridge, an ATP Carignane bottleing Will check with David Gates.
- Story “Picnic Hill”, Amador, Story Winery Yes - thanks Sean!!!
- T.C. Vineyard, Amador Thoughts?
Mike, I spoke to someone from Ballentine Vineyards today, and they’ve got some OMV zin vines from 1908 - I gave him my card, so hopefully he can confirm and come on here himself to give the exact info.
Mike, I spoke to someone from Ballentine Vineyards today, and they’ve got some OMV zin vines from 1908 - I gave him my card, so hopefully he can confirm and come on here himself to give the exact info.
Great Todd, thanks!
Serracino Vineyard DCV 80-100 years old Pezzi King, Peter Paul

Serracino Vineyard DCV 80-100 years old Pezzi King, Peter Paul
Thank You Mr. Beck! Great to uncover another treasure!
Here’s a few more updates (from various sources):
Vigneto di Evo RRV 1900 (approx.) Martinelli - This is a small vineyard that lies just below Jackass Hill.
Stryker Estate Vineyard Alexander Valley Early 1920s Stryker - Two acre block of old vine zin
Amy’s Vineyard RRV 1910 (approx.) Ledson
Aparicio Vineyard Sutter Ridge (Sierra Foothills) 1934 Rosenblum
Eschen Vineyard is also used by Rombauer for their Fiddletown Zin
Dal Porto – In the heart of Amador’s Shenandoah Valley, off Shenandoah School Road, the vineyard was planted in the 1920s by the Dal Porto family. About 8 acres of the original vineyards still provide excellent fruit for foothill wineries.
Upton – Sadie Upton’s 6-acre Zinfandel vineyard was planted in 1922. Located on the north side of Shenandoah Valley, Upton fruit goes into several Amador County Zinfandels including Karly Sadie Upton Zin. Sadie has passed on, but the family still owns and carefully farms the precious old vines.
The database as of 3/30:
101 Vineyard Alexander 1930s Turley
Aldo’s Napa 1937 Biale
Alegria Vineyards RRV 1890 Ridge, Stryker, Acorn
Alexander Valley Road Alexander 1923 Turley
Amy’s RRV 1910 Ledson
Angeli Ranch Alexander Porter Creek, Marietta
Aparicio Amador 1934 Rosenblum
Bacchi Ranch RRV 1909
Bacigalupi RRV 1950 Arista, Chronicle, John Tyler, Williams Seylem
Baldinelli (Dickson) Amador 1920s Terre Rouge
Barricia SV 1888 Ravenswood, Kenwood
Bechtold-Cinsault Lodi 1883 Turley
Bedrock SV 1888 Bedrock, Ravenswood, Carlisle
Belloni RRV 1920 Ravenswood
Benito Dusi Paso 1923 Ridge, Dover Canyon
Berry Mendocino 1940 Navarro
Biagi RRV 1940s
Big Break Contra Costa 1910 Cline
Big River Alexander 1893 Dashe, Ravenswood, Bella
Boeger El Dorado 1880s Boeger
Brandin Ranch Napa 1926 Rosenblum, Franus
Bridgehead, Contra Costa, 1900, Cline Contra Costa 1900 Cline
Burnett DCV 1920s Alderbrook
Butler/Slazinski Sonoma 1920s DeLoach
Carlisle (Pelletti) RRV 1927 Carlisle, Novy, DeLoach
Casa Santinamaria/Maggies Reserve SV 1890s Rosenblum, Saxon Brown
Catfish Lake 1901 Steele
Chauvet SV 1936 Ravenswood, Coturri, Roudon-Smith
Ciapusci Mendocino 1902
Carla’s Contra Costa 1902 Carla’s Vineyard, Rosenblum
Coffaro DCV 1890’s Coffarro, Wine Guerrilla
Collins Napa 1923 Biale
Coturri SV 1935 Coturri
Cullinane SV 1930s Ledson, Rosenblum
D&D Ranch Alexander 1930s Ridge
Dal Porto Amador 1920s
Dante Dusi Ranch Paso 1945 Turley
Deaver Amador 1930s Deaver, Medusa
DeRose Cienega 1899 DeRose
Dickerson Napa 1930 Ravenswood, Dickerson
Dina’s (Chelli) RRV 1910 Hartford
Dogtown Lodi 1944 Turley
Dolinsek Ranch RRV 1910 Bedrock, Mara
Duarte Contra Costa 1899 Turley, Rosenblum
DuPratt Mendocino 1920s Steele
Emmons/Riebli SV 1920s DeLoach
Eschen-Rinaldi Amador 1910s Terre Rouge, Renwood
Esola Amador 1910 Amador Foothill, Ridge
Evangehlo Contra Costa 1910 Jade Mt.
Falleri Napa 1924 Biale
Fanucchi-Wood RRV 1906 Hartford, Fannucchi
Fava Ranch RRV 1922 Marcucci Farms
Felice Connolly Napa 1920s Talty
Fieldstone Alexander 1894 Fieldstone
Forchini RRV/DCV 1910 Forchini, Williams Selyem, Wine Guerrilla
Fredericks (Weiss) SV 1937 Turley
Frediani Napa 1920 T Vine Cellars
Fredson Ranch Alexander 1900s Ridge
Gaddis RRV 1903 Chronicle
Galleano Cucamonga 1925 Galleano
Gamba RRV 1900 Gamba
Gambogi RRV 1909 Chronicle, Hook and Ladder
Geyserville Alexander 1880 Ridge
Ghiradelli Calaveras 1900 Milliaire
Gold Mine Ranch DCV 1914 Carlisle
Grande Napa 1920 Biale
Grandpere Amador 1900 Macchia, Vino Noceto, CG DiAire
Guadagni DCV Preston
Guido Venturi Mendocino 1940 Woodenhead
Hartford RRV 1910 Hartford
Hayne Napa 1903 Turley, Chase
Heymar/Gobar Ranch Alexander 1913 Ravenswood
Highwire RRV 1913 Hartford
Hoo Doo Creek Lake 1930s Medusa
Jackass RRV 1880 Martinelli
Jackass Hill RRV 1899 Martinelli, Williams-Selyem
Jimsomare SCM 1900 Ridge
JJ Cohn Napa 1945 Scarecrow
John Teldeschi DCV Bedrock, Ravenswood
Jolene’s/Maffei Ranch RRV 1928 Hartford
Langtry Road SV 1880s Ridge
Library Napa 1930 Turley
Limerick Lane (Collins) SV 1911 Limerick Lane, Gary Farrell
Lion Oaks SCM 1899 Storrs
Live Oak Contra Costa 1899 Cline
Lizzie James Lodi 1904 Harney Lane
Lopez Cucamonga 1918 Carol Sheldon, Geyser Peak
Lorenzo’s DCV 1909 Bedrock
Lovau DCV 1943 Daschle
Lubenko Amador 1911 Shenandoah, Sobon
Luvisi Napa 1908 Briggs
Lytton Estate DCV 1901 Ridge
Mancini RRV 1924 Swan
Mancuso/ Morse/ Lasseter Ranch SV 1919 Bedrock
Maple DCV 1910 Ducher Crossing, Pezzi King, Armida, Mazzocco, Carol Shelton, Maples
Marian’s Lodi 1901 St. Amant
Martinelli Road RRV 1880 Carlisle, Woodenhead
Massoni Amador 1910 Runquist
Mattern Ranch Mendocino 1933 Turley
Mazzoni Home Ranch Alexander 1890s Ridge, Kenwood
McElarney and Smith SV 1888 Rosenblum
Mead Ranch Napa 1960s* Biale
Mencarini Lodi 1950 Abundance
Mettler Lodi 1907 Mettler
Midway Ranch RRV 1920s
Mohr-Fry Lodi 1930 St. Amant, Joel Gott, Eola Hills, Valhalla
Montafi Ranch (Tom Feeney) RRV 1926 Carlisle, Williams Seylem, Starry Night
Monte Bello SCM 1949 Ridge
Monte Rosso SV 1886 Biale, Rancho Zabaco, Martini, Ravenswood, Ridge, Rosenblum, Amapola Creek, Charter Oaks, Stryker, Carlisle, Bedrock
Moore “Earthquake” Napa 1906 Turley, Biale
Moratto RRV 1920 Gamba
Mori Contra Costa 1930s Turley
Morse SV 1918 Bedrock
Nalle DCV 1910s Nalle
Nervo Alexander 1899 Ridge, Trione
Nichelini Napa 1929 Nichelini
Oat Valley Alexander 1900s Ridge
Old Kraft Napa 1890s Biale
Old Crane Napa 1880s Biale
Old Hill Ranch SV 1880 Bucklin, Ravenswood, Roudin-Smith
Pacini Mendocino 1920s Steele
Pagani Ranch SV 1902 Ridge, St. Francis, Carlisle, Bedrock
Palisades Napa 1902 Stag’s Leap, Miner, Carver Sutro, Biale, Carlisle
Papera Ranch (Carlo’s) RRV 1934 Carlisle, Bedrock, Novy, DeLoach, Williams Seylem
Pato Contra Costa 1940s Phinney, Neyers
Pedroncelli DCV 1927 Pedroncelli
Perli Mendocino 1899 Edmeades
Pesenti Paso 1923 Turley, Presenti
Picchetti SCM 1880s Ridge, Picchetti
Pietra Santa Cienega 1905 Pietra Santa
Piffero Mendocino 1930 Edmeades
Planchon Contra Costa 1901 Franus, Rosenblum
Puccioni SV 1904 Puccioni
Recetti Mendocino 1930s Claudia Springs, Fetzer
Redwood Valley Mendocino 1934 Pellegrini
Rossi Ranch SV 1910 Carlisle
Rossi Vineyard Napa Thackrey
Royal-Tee Lodi 1899 Jessie’s Grove
Rue Vineyard RRV 1910 Rue
Saitone RRV 1895 DeLoach
Salvador Contra Costa 1896 Turley
Samsel Mendocino 1890s Rosenblum
Saucelito Canyon SLO 1880s Saucelito Canyon
Sausal Alexander 1890s Sausal
Savannah-Chanelle SCM 1897 Savannah-Chanelle
Scherrer Alexander 1912 Scherrer
Serracino DCV 1930 Peter Paul, Pezzi King
Seghesio SV 1902 Seghesio
Shaw SV 1882 Kunde Estate
Small Berry Contra Costa 1910 Cline
Soucie Lodi 1916 M2
Stellwagen SV 1899 Bedrock, Swan
Story “Picnic Hill” Amador 1907
Stryker Alexander 1920s Stryker
T.C. Vineyard Amador 1914
Talty DCV 1920s Talty
Teldeschi Ranch DCV 1885 Carlisle
Tofanelli Napa 1929 Turley, Tofanelli, Swift
Tollini Mendocino 1924 Lolonis
Trentadue Ranch Alexander 1892 Ridge, Trentadue
Tucker/Canard Ranch Napa 1880s Biale
Twin Pines RRV 1900 Battaglini
Two Acres RRV 1910 Carlisle
Ueberroth Paso 1885 Turley
Upton Amador 1922 Karly
Valsecci Napa 1900 Biale
Varozza Napa 1900 Biale
Vogensen DCV 1900 Ravenswood, Preston
Von Weidlich RRV 1937 Ottimino, Radio-Coteau, DeLoach
Wellington SV 1892 Wellington
Westwind Lodi 1945 Jessie’s Grove
White Oak Alexander 1929 White Oak
Whitten Ranch SV 1890s Ridge
Winberrie RRV 1905 Sapphire Hill
Woodside SCM 1897 Woodside
York Creek Napa 1935 Ridge
Zampatti SV 1915 Turley
Zeigler RRV 1924 Swan
Zeni Mendocino 1917 Edmeades
Zichichi DCV 1940s Zichichi
Wanted to confirm Serracino Vineyard. I’m doing a designate off the top section which is the oldest plantings for PKV. Nice catch.

Wanted to confirm Serracino Vineyard. I’m doing a designate off the top section which is the oldest plantings for PKV. Nice catch.
Welcome Chris! The list shows Serracino planting as 1930. Is the top section you are using older than that (PKV website says 100 year old)? Looking forward to trying some of your new releases.
Discovered a new historic vineyard today - Gaddis, RRV, planted in 1903.
Chronicle Wines produces the zinfandel and it is reputed to be very good. Did you ever wonder what Ted Lemon (Littorai) could do with old vine zinfandel grapes? Here is your ticket:
I had a Chronicle Zin once when down in So-Cal, loved it!!!

Wanted to confirm Serracino Vineyard. I’m doing a designate off the top section which is the oldest plantings for PKV. Nice catch.
Thanks Chris. Please keep us updated on what you’re doing. You will be hearing from me soon!
I think this is going to become one of the best wine threads of all time