Another one for the list: Robert Rue Vineyard, Russian River Valley, 100+ year old vines. Wine currently produced by Robert Rue Vineyard & Winery. Grapes in the past have gone to Ravenswood for their Wood Road-Belloni bottleing.
Mike: I will email you Roberts contact info.
Good work Chris! The WS link clearly shows Russian River as the appelation for the WS Forchini Zin.
Sean
Mike:
To add to Merrill’s statement, here’s a link to Joe Briggs’ web site about Luvisi. I think we can also remove the “?” mark from your list.
http://www.augustbriggswines.com/index.cfm?method=pages.showPage&pageID=66844ca5-1b78-7bfe-4c81-f66cea024b6d" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Mike
More excellent super-sleuth investigating! I’ve received several batches of interesting suggestions offline as well. Hopefully a major upgrade over the weekend.
In the meantime, please keep the vine knowledge flowing!
Received this info from some know-it-all named Officer. Picky Picky! ![[wink.gif]](/uploads/db3686/original/2X/0/04707e6a7bbb03e0153e349d8a9270d30e1e9525.gif "wink"){kind=small}
Also, there are two Teldeschi’s – Ray and John. Morgan and Ravenswood (and F. Teldeschi winery) deal with John Teldeschi. I work with Ray Teldeschi (also, Eno has been buying from Ray). St. Francis has been doing a Bacchi for quite some (only available in the tasting room).
Edmeades no longer gets Ciapusci. Does Ridge still get some of Alegria? The owner Bill Nachbaur keeps most of it I think for his own label, Acorn. Bachigalupi is misspelled. It’s Bacigalupi. Williams Selyem gets the choice old vines from there. Think the other producers (at least some of them?) are getting younger vine fruit. Bella is a producer of Big River. Maggie’s Reserve (Samsel) is not the same as Casa Santinamaria. At least I don’t think so. Morgan? Turley works with Duarte in Contra Costa Co. We were a past producer of Emmons/Riebli (we called it Riebli Ranch). Ridge is a past producer of Evangehlo. Maybe still is? Peter Fannuchi keeps some of the grapes for his own eponymous label. We no longer get Fava. Haven’t since 2004. Marcucci Farms keeps the fruit for themselves for their own bottling. JC Cellars has not gotten Frediani for several years. Not sure who gets it now. We have never gotten Gambogi. Think Hook & Ladder takes most of it. Although Ridge calls it Geyserville, isn’t it really the Whitten Ranch? Or maybe the Trentadue Ranch? David?
[New paragraph just to break it up…]
We no longer get Gold Mine as of this year. You have Jackass Hill but what about Jackass Vineyard? Williams Selyem used to designate it as “Leno Martinelli”. Pretty sure they got the “hill” but they may have taken some of the “vineyard” as well? Jolene’s is really Maffei Ranch. Brings up the point of ranch/vineyard name vs. what a winery chooses to call it. Seems like the list is a mish-mash of both ways. “Jolene’s” is a name Hartford came up with as the two daughters running the ranch are Joanne and Arlene. Guess it can all be sorted out later. Carlisle has never gotten Mancini. (Swan is spelled with one “n” by the way.) It’s Maple Vineyard, not Maples. Martinelli Road is not Jackass. Well, at one time it was but a fence separates them. Different owners. Woodenhead used to do Martinelli Road. As of last year we get the vineyard now. Martinelli the winery has never used this fruit (at least that I know of). What is Monte Rosa? Maybe that’s really Monte Rosso? Add Carlisle and Bedrock as purchasers of old vines at Monte Rosso. David Noyes used to get the old vine tocai friulano from Pagani. Bedrock and Carlisle will be getting it going forward.
At Palisades, DeLoach has never gotten the fruit. Goes to Stags’ Leap, Miner, Carver Sutro, Carlisle, and Biale. Perhaps others. For Papera Ranch, add Williams Selyem as a current producer. Think Fetzer is a past producer of a Recetti zin. Thackrey’s Rossi is “Vineyard”, not “Ranch”. Think it’s spelled Vogensen but do any of the old vines remain? Sapphire Hill is missing a “p” and it’s Winberrie, with an “e” at the end.
Oh yeah! Talty has old vines in Dry Creek that they use for their zin. They also do a zin from the Felice Connolly Vineyard in Saint Helena. Think the vines are 60+ years old. And Zichichi has old vines too in Dry Creek. So do the Guadagni brothers.
I’ll stop. 
Ridge doesn’t make an Alegria unless it goes into their 3Vllys blend. They haven’t made Evangehlo (Mataro) for quite a few yrs.
Stryker also make a MonteRosso Zin (that’s very/very good).
Tom
I was just informed that we have at lest one Cabernet vineyard that qualifies for our Registry (60 years old).
Anyone want to guess the name? ![[whistle.gif]](/uploads/db3686/original/2X/8/87d24eb81ec6dc01d84f3d6c19fa9a357e90218e.gif "whistle"){kind=small}
JJ Cohn?
Craig - great job (althogh that wasn’t the vineyard I had in mind). JJ Cohn (Scarecrow) was planted in 1945, which (if the original vines are stil producing) would qualify the vineyard for the registry. I’ll include it for now.
While Craig may be correct, JJ Cohn was not the original vinyeard in my question. Any other guesses?
Damn! Oh well that’s the only one I could think of. If your looking for other none Zin vineyards. I block in Mondavi’s ToKalon that is planted to Sauvignon Blanc are 60+ years old.
On another note, I dropped a line to Steve Felton of Klinker Brick down in Lodi. He was in the shop the other day and mentioned they have multiple vineyards in the 60-100+ year mark. I asked him to please register and add at will
I know the La Questa Cab vineyard planted by E. H. Rixford in 1884 from cuttings from Chateau Margaux is produced by Woodside Vineyards in the Santa Cruz mountains. See http://www.woodsidevineyards.com/history.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. I think Wes Barton or Dave Tong may have some more info.
I am pretty sure that there are old Cab vines at Monte Rosso vineyard along with a lot of other old vine varieties.
I heard of another vineyard in Sonoma that has some real old Cab but the name is escaping me now.
Edited: due to seplling.
There are Cab vines at Jimsomare. Monte Bello might have some that old also.
Monte Bello was planted in 1949!
Some major updates to the database:
101 Vineyard Alexander 1930s Turley
Aldo’s Napa 1937 Biale
Alegria Vineyards RRV 1890 Ridge, Stryker, Acorn
Alexander Valley Road Alexander 1923 Turley
Angeli Ranch Alexander Porter Creek, Marietta
Bacchi Ranch RRV 1909
Bacigalupi RRV 1920 Arista, Chronicle, John Tyler, Williams Seylem
Baldinelli (Dickson) Amador 1920s Terre Rouge
Barricia SV 1888 Ravenswood, Kenwood
Bechtold-Cinsault Lodi 1883 Turley
Bedrock SV 1888 Bedrock, Ravenswood, Carlisle
Belloni RRV 1920 Ravenswood
Benito Dusi Paso 1923 Ridge, Dover Canyon
Berry Mendocino 1940 Navarro
Biagi RRV 1940s
Big Break Contra Costa 1910 Cline
Big River Alexander 1893 Dashe, Ravenswood, Bella
Boeger El Dorado 1880s Boeger
Brandin Ranch Napa 1926 Rosenblum, Franus
Bridgehead, Contra Costa, 1900, Cline Contra Costa 1900 Cline
Burnett DCV 1920s Alderbrook
Butler/Slazinski Sonoma 1920s DeLoach
Carlisle (Pelletti) RRV 1927 Carlisle, Novy, DeLoach
Casa Santinamaria/Maggies Reserve SV 1890s Rosenblum, Saxon Brown
Catfish Lake 1901 Steele
Chauvet SV 1879 Ravenswood, Coturri, Roudon-Smith
Ciapusci Mendocino 1902
Clara’s Contra Costa 1902 Clara’s Vineyard, Rosenblum
Coffaro DCV 1890’s Coffarro, Wine Guerrilla
Collins Napa 1923 Biale
Coturri SV 1935 Coturri
Cullinane SV 1930s Ledson, Rosenblum
D&D Ranch Alexander 1930s Ridge
Dante Dusi Ranch Paso 1945 Turley
Deaver Amador 1930s Deaver, Medusa
DeRose Cienega 1899 DeRose
Dickerson, Napa Napa 1930 Ravenswood, Dickerson
Dina’s (Chelli) RRV 1910 Hartford
Dogtown Lodi 1944 Turley
Dolinsek Ranch RRV 1910 Bedrock, Mara
Duarte Contra Costa 1899 Turley
DuPratt Mendocino 1920s Steele
Emmons/Riebli SV 1920s DeLoach
Eschen-Rinaldi Amador 1910s Terre Rouge, Renwood
Esola Amador 1910 Amador Foothill, Ridge
Evangehlo Contra Costa 1910 Jade Mt.
Falleri Napa 1924 Biale
Fanucchi-Wood RRV 1906 Hartford, Fannucchi
Fava Ranch RRV 1922 Marcucci Farms
Felice Connolly Napa 1920s Talty
Fieldstone Alexander 1894 Fieldstone
Forchini RRV/DCV 1910 Forchini, Williams Selyem, Wine Guerrilla
Fredericks (Weiss) SV 1937 Turley
Frediani Napa 1920 T Vine Cellars
Fredson Ranch Alexander 1900s Ridge
Galleano Cucamonga 1925 Galleano
Gamba RRV 1900 Gamba
Gambogi, RRV RRV 1909 Chronicle, Hook and Ladder
Geyserville Alexander 1880 Ridge
Ghiradelli Calaveras 1900 Milliaire
Gold Mine Ranch DCV 1914 Carlisle
Grande Napa 1920 Biale
Grandpere Amador 1900 Macchia, Vino Noceto, CG DiAire
Guadagni DCV Preston
Guido Venturi Mendocino 1940 Woodenhead
Hartford RRV 1910 Hartford
Hayne Napa 1903 Turley, Chase
Heymar/Gobar Ranch Alexander 1913 Ravenswood
Highwire RRV 1913 Hartford
Hoo Doo Creek Lake 1930s Medusa
Jackass RRV 1880 Martinelli
Jackass Hill RRV 1899 Martinelli, Williams-Selyem
Jimsomare SCM 1900 Ridge
JJ Cohn Napa 1945 Scarecrow
John Teldeschi DCV Bedrock, Ravenswood
Jolene’s/Maffei Ranch RRV 1928 Hartford
Langtry Road SV 1880s Ridge
Library Napa 1930 Turley
Limerick Lane (Collins) SV 1911 Limerick Lane, Gary Farrell
Lion Oaks SCM 1899 Storrs
Live Oak Contra Costa 1899 Cline
Lizzie James Lodi 1904 Harney Lane
Lopez Cucamonga 1918 Carol Sheldon, Geyser Peak
Lorenzo’s DCV 1909 Bedrock
Lovau Alexander 1943 Daschle
Lubenko Amador 1911 Shenandoah, Sobon
Luvisi Napa 1908 Briggs
Lytton Estate DCV 1901 Ridge
Mancini RRV 1924 Swan
Mancuso/ Morse/ Lasseter Ranch SV 1919 Bedrock
Maple DCV 1910 Ducher Crossing, Pezzi King, Armida, Mazzocco, Carol Shelton, Maples
Marian’s Lodi 1901 St. Amant
Martinelli Road RRV 1880 Carlisle, Woodenhead
Massoni Amador 1910 Runquist
Mattern Ranch Mendocino 1933 Turley
Mazzoni Home Ranch Alexander 1890s Ridge, Kenwood
McElarney and Smith SV 1888 Rosenblum
Mead Ranch Napa 1960s* Biale
Mencarini Lodi 1950 Abundance
Mettler Lodi 1907 Mettler
Midway Ranch RRV 1920s
Mohr-Fry Lodi 1930 St. Amant, Joel Gott, Eola Hills, Valhalla
Montafi Ranch (Tom Feeney) RRV 1924 Carlisle, Williams Seylem, Starry Night
Monte Bello SCM 1949 Ridge
Monte Rosso SV 1886 Biale, Rancho Zabaco, Martini, Ravenswood, Ridge, Rosenblum, Amapola Creek, Charter Oaks, Stryker, Carlisle, Bedrock
Moore “Earthquake” Napa 1906 Turley, Biale
Moratto RRV 1920 Gamba
Mori Contra Costa 1930s Turley
Morse SV 1918 Bedrock
Nalle DCV 1910s Nalle
Nervo Alexander 1899 Ridge, Trione
Nichelini Napa 1929 Nichelini
Oat Valley Alexander 1900s
Old Craft Napa 1890s Biale
Old Crane Napa 1880s Biale
Old Hill Ranch SV 1880 Bucklin, Ravenswood, Roudin-Smith
Pacini Mendocino 1920s Steele
Pagani Ranch SV 1902 Ridge, St. Francis, Carlisle, Bedrock
Palisades Napa 1902 Stag’s Leap, Miner, Carver Sutro, Biale, Carlisle
Papera Ranch (Carlo’s) RRV 1934 Carlisle, Bedrock, Novy, DeLoach, Williams Seylem
Pato Contra Costa 1940s Neyers
Pedroncelli DCV 1927 Pedroncelli
Perli Mendocino 1899 Edmeades
Pesenti Paso 1923 Turley, Presenti
Picchetti SCM 1880s Ridge, Picchetti
Pietra Santa Cienega 1905 Pietra Santa
Piffero Mendocino 1930 Edmeades
Planchon Contra Costa 1901 Franus, Rosenblum
Puccioni SV 1904 Puccioni
Recetti Mendocino 1930s Claudia Springs, Fetzer
Redwood Valley Mendocino 1934 Pellegrini
Rossi Ranch SV 1910 Carlisle
Rossi Vineyard Napa Thackrey
Royal-Tee Lodi 1899 Jessie’s Grove
Rue Vineyard RRV 1910 Rue
Saitone RRV 1895 Carlisle, DeLoach
Salvador Contra Costa 1896 Turley
Samsel Mendocino 1890s Rosenblum
Saucelito Canyon SLO 1880s Saucelito Canyon
Sausal Alexander 1890s Sausal
Savannah-Chanelle SCM 1897 Savannah-Chanelle
Scherrer Alexander 1912 Scherrer
Seghesio SV 1902 Seghesio
Shaw SV 1882 Kunde Estate
Small Berry Contra Costa 1910 Cline
Soucie Lodi 1916 M2
Stellwagen SV 1899 Bedrock, Swan
Story “Picnic Hill” Amador 1907
T.C. Vineyards Amador 1914
Talty DCV 1920s Talty
Teldeschi Ranch DCV 1885 Carlisle
Tofanelli Napa 1929 Turley, Tofanelli, Swift
Tollini Mendocino 1924 Lolonis
Trentadue Ranch Alexander 1892 Ridge, Trentadue
Tucker/Canard Ranch Napa 1880s Biale
Twin Pines RRV 1900 Battaglini
Two Acres RRV 1910 Carlisle
Ueberroth Paso 1885 Turley
Valsecci Napa 1900 Biale
Varozza Napa 1900 Biale
Vogensen DCV 1900 Ravenswood, Preston
Von Weidlich RRV 1937 Ottimino, Radio-Coteau, DeLoach
Wellington SV 1892 Wellington
Westwind Lodi 1945 Jessie’s Grove
White Oak Alexander 1929 White Oak
Whitten Ranch SV 1890s Ridge
Winberrie RRV 1905 Sapphire Hill
Woodside SCM 1897 Woodside
York Creek Napa 1935 Ridge
Zampatti SV 1915 Turley
Zeigler RRV 1924 Swan
Zeni Mendocino 1917 Edmeades
Zichichi DCV 1940s Zichichi
Two small corrections Mike:
It is “Carla’s Vineyard” not “Clara’s Vineyard”
It is “Old Kraft” not “Old Craft”
The list is looking good ![[thankyou.gif]](/uploads/db3686/original/2X/d/df165fe9c1593d19166ae7e1ffe5e272089cc07b.gif "thankyou"){kind=small}
Just note that Monte Bello is not a vineyard*, it is more a subregion. It includes a series of vineyards up a ridgeline over a significant altitude range.
The first plantings on Montebello were in the 1870s. Over the next few decades the ridge had been planted extensively.
The Jimsomare Vyd. is part of Monte Bello and is the second lowest in elevation. The original Ridge partners first bought the William Short estate, which is where their tasting room is. The oldest vines in the William Short Vyd. date to 1949. This is the second highest vineyard on the ridge, the lower half of Oseo Perrone’s Montebello Vyd., originally planted in the 1880s.
It is quite possible that there are other older vines up there under Ridge’s control. David Gates should be of more help.
Wes, the information that the Cabernet vines at Monte Bello were planted in '49 did come from David.
Targeting the appropriatet level of aggregation is one of the challenges we’re facing with this project!
We have not been able to identify growers or producers for these vineyards:
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I have had a couple of T.C. Vineyard Zins over the years but am drawing a blank on the producers ![[scratch.gif]](/uploads/db3686/original/2X/4/42a16863a8714da3c1604419e3eb9206bb87aa50.gif "scratch"){kind=small}
Hmmmmm, Wes…there might be some folks at 17100 MBRd that’d dispute that statement!! 
I would say that MonteBello is a dual use designator. Originally it referred to the Short & Perrone combined vnyd, and the stuff out of Jimsomare
was always considered a separate vnyd. But w/ the designation of a MB AVA, which includes now Jimsomare as you describe, it’s taken on
a broader meaning.
There are also a vnyd or two up there in the MB AVA which are not owned by Ridge. Don’t know if they use MB on their label or not.
Tom