Bottom Feeder Wines of the Major European Regions

[James_Billy]

Same idea as The Legendary QPR Wine from each Major European Region - WINE TALK - WineBerserkers but this time we’re plumbing the depths, slumming it, etc.

What is the cheapest, widely available wine from a major region that you’d happily drink without feeling you were drinking something vastly inferior to what you most like drinking in this region. Traditional leaning styles preferred.

I’ll start. Prices to the nearest 5 bux.

The winner of each catagory is the cheapest wine that more than half the respondents deem acceptable.

Otto does not have the right to overrule this poll.

Champagne - Moutard Grande Cuvee Brut NV $25

Rhone - Chave Mon Coeur $15 (catagory closed)

Bordeaux - Senejac $15

Loire Red - Baudry - Les Granges $20 (catagory closed)

Loire Chenin - Marc Bredif Vouvray Classic

Loire - Sauvignon - François Chidaine Touraine, Henri Bourgeois Petit Bourgeois, Paul Buisse Touraine

Muscadet - Pepiere Sur Lie 'La Pepie. $15 (catagory closed)

Off Dry Riesling - ?

Dry Riesling - Donnhoff $15 (catagory closed)

Alsace Gewürztraminer - ?

Alsace - Pinot Gris - ?

Red Burgundy - Domaine des Moirots Bourgogne Rouge $20

White Burgundy - Louis Michel Chablis $20 (catagory closed)

Beaujolais - Jadot Beaujolais Villages $10

Rioja - CVNE crianza $10 (catagory closed)

Bierzo - Vinos Valtuille Pago de Valdoneje Roble ($13)
Descendientes de Jose Palacios Petalos del Bierzo ($20)
Raul Perez Ultreia Saint Jacques ($20)

Fino/Manzanilla - Valdespino Inocente (catagory closed)

Chianti - Casa Emma $20, Tenuta di Nozzole Chianti Classico Riserva Nozzole ($20)

Langhe Nebbiolo - Produttori $15 (catagory closed)

Aglianico - D’Angelo Aglianico del Vulture Riserva Vigna Caselle

Etna Rosso - Terre Nere $20 (catagory closed)

Etna Bianco - Terre Nere $20

Soave - Inama $10

Dao red - Quinta de Saes. $15

Douro white - Niepoort Twisted both Branco $15

Douro red - Niepoort Twisted Tinto. $15

Bairrada - Filipa Pato ‘post quercus baga’

Santorini Assyrtiko - not at this price according to Otto.

Gruner Veltliner - Domaine Wachau $15

Vinho Verde - Aveleda “Fonte”

Puglia - Cosimo Taurino Salice Salentino Riserva ($13)

Would you be happy to drink all of these or can you offer a better choice without upping the price?.

Would you be happy to drink all of these or can you offer a better choice without upping the price?

This list is far from exhaustive and totally subjective. No need to argue. Just give suggestions for regions you like.

[Max_S1]

Loire Chenin - Badenhorst Secateurs @ $15
Langhe Nebbiolo - Produttori @ $20
Rioja - LdH @ $22
Dry Riesling - Donnhoff Estate @ $14

[Sean_S_y_d_n_e_y]

The Jadot Beaujolais-Villages is by no means a great wine but is adequate for a brainless drink-it-and-don’t-think-it. I think it’s $11-12 USD.

[Nate_Simon]

Off the top of the head, I’m thinking Joguet Petites Roches can be found around $20. Also Kuentz-Bas Riesling (maybe $15).

[Max_S1]

The Jadot Beaujolais-Villages is by no means a great wine but is adequate for a brainless drink-it-and-don’t-think-it. I think it’s $11-12 USD.

Agree

[ChrisWolff]

Finally a thread in my wheelhouse

Campo Viejo Reserve Rioja

Dr Loosen Dry

Agree on Louis Jadot Beaujolais

Had an Albert Bichot from Saint Veran via Wine Access recently that was solid

[RichardFlack]

Same idea as The Legendary QPR Wine from each Major European Region - WINE TALK - WineBerserkers but this time we’re plumming the depths, slumming it, etc.

What is the cheapest, widely available wine from a major region that you’d happily drink without feeling you were drinking something vastly inferior to what you most like drinking in this region. Traditional leaning styles preferred.

I’ll start. Prices to the nearest 5 bux.

The winner of each catagory is the cheapest wine that more than half the respondents deem acceptable.

Champagne - Moutard Grande Cuvee Brut NV $25

Rhone - Guigal Cotes du Rhone $10

Bordeaux - Senejac $15

Loire Red - Baudry - Les Granges $20

Loire Chenin - ?

Loire - Sauvignon - ?

Loire - Muscadet - ?

Off Dry Riesling - ?

Dry Riesling - ?

Alsace Gewürztraminer - ?

Alsace - Pinot Gris - ?

Red Burgundy - water

White Burgundy - Chardonnay from somewhere else?

Beaujolais - ?

Rioja - ?

Bierzo - ?

Fino/Manzanilla - ?

Chianti - ?

Langhe Nebbiolo - ?

Aglianico - ?

Etna Rosso - ?

Etna Bianco - ?

Soave - ?

Dao - ?

Douro - ?

Santorini Assyrtiko - ?

This list is far from exhaustive and totally subjective. No need to argue. Just give suggestions for regions you like.

You buried the lede (Burgundy!).

Not sure about US pricing but a couple of quick preliminary suggestions
Fino - Tio Pepe, and many others, eg La Guita, San Patricio
White Burgundy - Jadot BB, Roche de Bellene BB , La Chablisienne
Red Burgundy - aged Cru Beaujolais (ok a stretch),
Off dry Riesling. Dr L

[Anthony_Sanford]

Loire Muscadet - Clos Briords for <20$
Etna Rosso - Tenuta delle Terre Nere 18$
Etna Bianco - Tenuta delle Terre Nere 20$
Rioja - LdH as well for <25$
Champagne if you want to go lower than 25$, perhaps the Kirkland Champagne? at 20$
Soave - PIEROPAN SOAVE CLASSICO <20$

[Nick_Ellis]

Instead of Langhe for Nebbiolo, I’d propose Alto Piedmont and Produttori di Carema or Vallana Spanna for around $15-20 max.

[Marcu_Stanley]

I was going to suggest Jadot Beaune 1er crus for red Burgundy, that’s how I got my start, but then I looked up the current Winesearcher prices LOL. That’s no longer bottom-feeding unless you are willing to make a serious Burgundy adjustment.

[melvinyeo]

White Burgundy - Anything from Chablis. Basic Chablis I would pick Fevre as my favourite. Domaine des Malandes, Moreau-Naudet and Lavantureux have some affordable 1ers.

[Robert_Dentice]

Germany - Hild Elbing $13-15

[James_Billy]

Red Burgundy - water

You buried the lede (Burgundy!).

I was going to suggest Jadot Beaune 1er crus for red Burgundy, that’s how I got my start, but then I looked up the current Winesearcher prices LOL. That’s no longer bottom-feeding unless you are willing to make a serious Burgundy adjustment.

[James_Billy]

Loire Muscadet - Clos Briords for <20$
Etna Rosso - Tenuta delle Terre Nere 18$
Etna Bianco - Tenuta delle Terre Nere 20$
Rioja - LdH as well for <25$
Champagne if you want to go lower than 25$, perhaps the Kirkland Champagne? at 20$
Soave - PIEROPAN SOAVE CLASSICO <20$

Great choices, but as some of those are included in the Legendary Value thread (see OP) these are great wines, but this thread is about really cheaping out. Whatever was in the previous thread we need to slash thelat price.

What wines would you drink when you really wanted a cheap night in?

[James_Billy]

Loire Chenin - Badenhorst Secateurs @ $15

Where in the Loire is this made?

I know you were just being cheeky

[James_Billy]

Champagne - Moutard Grande Cuvee Brut NV $25

Rhone - Guigal Cotes du Rhone $10

Bordeaux - Senejac $15

Loire Red - Baudry - Les Granges $20 or Joguet Petites Roche $15 or Guion Prestige $15 or Guion Bourgueil Domaine & Prestige $15 or Deux Monts $20

Alfert? Julian (from memory? )

Loire Chenin - Marc Bredif Vouvray Classic

Loire - Sauvignon - ?

Loire - Muscadet - Pepiere Sur Lie or Jo Landron Muscadet $15

Off Dry Riesling - ?

Dry Riesling - Loosen Dr L or Donnhoff $15 or Trimbach? $15 or Leitz Dragonstone $15

Alsace Gewürztraminer - ?

Alsace - Pinot Gris - ?

Red Burgundy - Domaine des Moirots Bourgogne Rouge $20

White Burgundy - Moirots Bourgogne Blanc $20 or Jadot Macon-Villages $10 or Chablis or JM Brocard Ste. Claire $15

Beaujolais - Jadot Beaujolais Villages $10

Rioja - Campo Viejo Reserve / Marques de Caceres / CVNE crianza $10 / LAN Crianza / $10 Marques de Riscal’s Reserva $20

Bierzo - ?

Fino/Manzanilla - Tio Pepe? Solear? La Guita? La Gitana? Lots of choices. Which is the best? $20

Chianti - Villa Antinori Toscana $? or Casa Emma $?

Langhe Nebbiolo - Produttori $15 or Vallana Campi Raudii $15 Vajra Nebbiolo Langhe $20

Aglianico - ?

Etna Rosso - Terre Nere $20 or Calabretta Cala Cala $15 or Gulfi Nerojbleo $20 Various Alcesti $10-20

Etna Bianco - Terre Nere $20

Soave - Inama $10

Dao - Quinta do Sobral Reserva both Branco and Tinto or Quinta de Saes. $?

Douro - Niepoort Twisted both Branco and Tinto. $?

Santorini Assyrtiko - ?

Gruner Veltliner - Domaine Wachau $15

Would you be happy to drink all of these or can you offer a better choice without upping the price?.

[RichardFlack]

Loire Muscadet - Clos Briords for <20$
Etna Rosso - Tenuta delle Terre Nere 18$
Etna Bianco - Tenuta delle Terre Nere 20$
Rioja - LdH as well for <25$
Champagne if you want to go lower than 25$, perhaps the Kirkland Champagne? at 20$
Soave - PIEROPAN SOAVE CLASSICO <20$

LdH … Heredia or Haro? Latter meets the price brief not sure the former does!

[Arv_R]

In Rioja I’d rather have Marques de Caceres or CVNE crianza’s over AFWE fave Lopez de Heredia. They’re half the price and much more widely available.

[Max_S1]

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Loire Chenin - Badenhorst Secateurs @ $15

Where in the Loire is this made?

I know you were just being cheeky

No I copy pasted and didn’t edit ha!

[James_Billy]

In Rioja I’d rather have Marques de Caceres or CVNE crianza’s over AFWE fave Lopez de Heredia. They’re half the price and much more widely available.

They sound like good choices. Which CVNE crianza? The ‘Cune’?