Bordeaux 2021


Thank you for sharing. Yeah those wines should be discounted.

I hear you. I have no will power!

That’s the sort of pricing e.g. on Cos that would have spurred a little bit of interest ot me.

Nice to be validated despite some views here that demand really is down for 2021.

I bit on some LCHB. The wdc price seemed reasonable.

Henry, I think you nailed it with the Les Carmes. Only 2 shops in the UK are still showing first tranche pricing and the rest are showing $130/btl or more, which seems about right given the Liv-ex bid of about $106, which I believe is wholesale pricing (I wonder what the ask is?).

Still a few shops in the US at around $115 per WS Pro.

thanks - CHB has been a pretty reliable purchase in recent years (e.g. fulfilling my criteria of ‘likely to get more expensive, therefore worth spending the money on now’). Starting to build a decent haul of 19/20/21, been tempted to pull the trigger on some 2016 but havent done it yet.

I told myself I was done buying Bordeaux after '16, but I recently picked up the '19 after reading the CT notes. It is still available in the states for a decent price too. Now I have '14/'15/'16/'19 and maybe '21. Btw, I love the '16 vintage in general, great fruit and acid. The HB is out of this world.

Email from Farr today includes the line


Any 2021 at the same price as the 2019 is simply not worth buying. There are, however, wines worth picking up this year.

Nothing new here. Economy not in strong shape, an overpriced vintage with medium tier scores, and plenty of alternatives lurking. Keyword here is wait; if this is a vintage you do want to buy, you have plenty of time for the prices to correct.

I put together a buy list for myself, 30 bottles or less but have yet to buy. I will buy some low production wines and maybe 1-2 first growths but am otherwise frozen buying this vintage. I still think there is good wine to come from the 21’ vintage, just need to do a lot of research reviewing notes.

Only thing i bit on was LCHB for 6 bottles… thinking of Pichon Comtesse as well but haven’t pulled the trigger yet

I am very curious to actually taste these wines. Ironically, I’m more “curious” about this vintage than I have been about any other in quite some time; the ongoing debate/spirited conversation will do that … [cheers.gif]

Starting to nibble a little bit. Got some LCHB and SHL Blanc so far. Likely to add PLL, PB and DDC Blanc

Pricing for the 2021 futures at LCBO have just been released. Pretty disappointing tbh.

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With the dollar strength, will these ep’s get any cheaper?

Did the '17s?

17’s were purchased with dollars in 2018, which is very different than the strength of the dollar today.

I received two offers today from the UK, one verbal one in writing with reduced pricing.

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Reduced in pounds or dollars (or both)? This is probably more a reflection of the campaign sucking wind (shocker) than the dollar/euro or dollar/pound exchange rates (the dollar has strengthened over the last month but not that much).