Bordeaux 2016 vintage

I pretty much agree! And I would add that 2015 is closer to 1990 as it has a high acidity combined with high ripeness… while 2009 is ripe but doesn’t have such high acidity. To me 2015 is the vintage to look for as it is the closest to the magic 1990!!

I’ve never been fan of 1988 or 2008… and I tasted about 40 wines of 2014… and indeed same style, high tannin, high acid, lacking fruit… not my style!

The three I have seen:

The nose is light and fresh the start of the palate has red cherry and bramble but there is mid richness then a slight lack of balance with the tannins and freshness firming up the finish. 2025-36
Score: 84/87 Derek Smedley MW, DerekSmedleyMW.co.uk, April 2017

Blackish crimson. Headily sweet and gamey on the nose with dark, purple-fruit aromas and then this sample went dead on me on the palate. Sucked out the saliva. Very drying end. Awkward, stodgy finish. Not for me. Unripe phenolics.
Drink 2024-2036 Score: 16 Jancis Robinson MW, JancisRobinson.com, April 2017


The colour on this is deep and inky and a blast of cassis and black cherry fruit greets you on the nose. It has undeniable oak impact, but also a lovely lift that carries right through the palate, and that incredible Clinet precision. A fantastic 2016, not as exuberant as 2015 but showing the quality of the vintage where even the big-shouldered wines have a stunning lift, and a feeling of an invisible gossamer curtain holding them in place. Not a hedonist’s vintage like 2009 or 2015, but cerebral in the style of 2001 and 2010. Strong coffee and grilled caramel on the finish.

Drinking Window 2027 - 2050
Score: 97 Jane Anson, Decanter.com, April 2017

Interesting. Thanks.

I tend not to read too many reviews -or I will if I come across them, but I don’t generally go looking for them. I do pay attention to the vintage and kind of check in to see if scores are generally universal.

I tend to buy based on producers I have enjoyed in the past. When I read a series of differing reviews like that, maybe I’m on the right track.

I have felt the prices are far too high especially given the exchange rate. And the price increases will only go up as the campaign goes on. But I am weak and stupid and bought some bottles of Leoville Barton and Beychevelle. I think I would’ve picked up a little Calon-Segur, but that’s been impossible to source. I will probably now look mostly to buying halves of “value” wines, perhaps Chasse-Spleen, Cantemerle and the like.

FYI, your wine is out today, about $235 per

UGH! I figured the late offer meant bad things…

Thanks (I guess)

Maybe I’ll buy 2014 instead.

That’s like seven years of ad revenue from Wineberserkers.

I’m not sure what you thought it would sell for. But I would not buy 14 over 16 here. If it’s a wine you really want, buy the 15 or 16.

Jeff, did you taste Duo de Conseillante or do you have any general thoughts about it? This is the first time I’ve seen it offered in my area.

Yes, you can find tasting notes for 600 wines from 2016 on my site.

Like I said, I was ‘afraid’ of it since it was coming in so late.

What about '12? That is, according to you, a pretty solid option for Pomerol, and half the price of the '15 (almost) or '16

L’Evangile is always a pricey wine, regardless of when it comes out in the campaign. I like the 12’s. They offer good value. I bought 15 for me, and I am considering 16, FWIW. They are among the best vintages ever produced at the property IMO.

I don’t see any note for 2016 Duo on the La Conseillante page.

Thanks, Jeff - I do check your site frequently, as it’s by far the most complete information on Bordeaux that I can find readily, so I thank you.

Instead of Duo, which is s nice wine, Feytit Clinet is the best value in high quality wine in Pomerol. Check it out

And I thought I was disappointed by the Pichon Baron price. Pontet Canet came in 40% higher than last year, and about the same price as the 2005, which is probably just as good. Haut Bailly didn’t go up the same percentage, but it again is priced at the 2005 level.

The pricing on L’Evangile and La Fleur Petrus (which I also saw today) does not bode well for the Pomerols I did want to buy.

Pichon Lalande dropped in at $160, uughh

So far I’ve bought only 3 wines, only a handful of halves of each: Calon, D. de Chevalier, and Grand Puy Lacoste. The chances of me buying anything else is low. I will watch for the price on the Figeac, but have no delusions.

So far in 16
3L Calon
3L Canon
6 pack of Canon
6 pack of R Segla
will buy Figeac
wont be buying anything else

I’m not hopeful, either. I would love to get some, but I anticipate passing in the Figeac.