Battle Beer: Pliny the Elder I2PA vs. Sculpin IPA.

Beer and Spirits
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Monday, the 11th June 2012, saw a battle of beer titans at Mamou Too! between Russian River Brewing Co.'s Pliny the Elder Double (a.k.a., Imperial) India Pale Ale and Ballast Point Brewing Co.'s Sculpin India Pale Ale. The right and honorable panel of 5 judges were no less than Global Beer Exchange’s proprietor & Beertender Jim Araneta; fine wine, beer, and single malt triathlete Alex Tiu; fellow IWFS member and Usual Suspect Richard Joye; Gilmore Wine & Spirits founder & CEO Mags Villafuerte; and, of course, yours truly.

Ballast Point Brewing Co.'s Sculpin India Pale Ale, on the one hand, is exclusively distributed by Jim, an IPA marked by its bright freshness, pure, clean, vibrantly cool and robust flavors, thrilling hoppiness, wonderful balance and long, confident finish. It is a happy drink, one that I immediately took to when I first tried it a little over a year ago - Thursday, the 28th April 2011 to be exact - at Jim’s now-closed but fondly missed Tasting Room. For what it is worth, the Sculpin is, per Jim, the No.1 highest rated IPA by the beercentric Beer Advocate web community.

Russian River Brewing Co.'s Pliny the Elder Imperial India Pale Ale, on the other, is an extremely difficult to source Imperial IPA, not distributed locally (and probably never will be as it is not even distributed in the east coast). Superbly crafted, small production, it enjoys cult status in the USA, and I’ve loved it ever since I first tried it courtesy of Jim on Thursday, the 23rd June 2011 at one of our regular sessions at his Tasting Room, so much so, that I have flown in whatever few bottles I can order online from California. I’ve also been fortunate enough to have had a couple of pints of Pliny the Elder on tap at the Toronado in San Francisco on Saturday, the 16th July 2011. As far as Imperial IPAs go (generally bigger, heftier, and more robust than IPAs, with a abv breaching 7.5%), Pliny the Elder is, as I understand, also rated No.1 by Beer Advocate.

Nb: IPAs, and I2PAs for that matter, are ideally consumed as fresh as possible. They do not do well with age.

It just so happened that a couple of weeks ago Jim got in his new batch of fresh Sculpin, while I had a few bottles of fresh Pliny the Elder in my stash at home. There was no choice in the matter, we simply had to have them side-by-side. Thus, we arranged to meet at Mamou Too! at around 6:30pm for the momentous match.

Champagne Ayala Brut Majeur from me to warm up our palates…

…with a Charcuterie Platter to keep things interesting.

Some Healdsburg Salad para healthy, of course…

…and some of my favorite Spaghetti alla Bottarga for our session’s needed energy.

For the pasta, some 2007 Beringer Sbragia Limited Release Chardonnay from Alex. Lovely Napa chard this, one of Catha’s favorites.

Here we go! Ballast Point Sculpin IPA two months from bottling date.

…versus Russian River Pliny the Elder I2PA one month from bottling date.

The judges deliberate on the matter.

My own verdict was that the Sculpin, though a month older from bottling date, stood out more in freshness, florality, and flavor (purity, focus, vibrancy, and balance). Jim, Alex, Richard, and Mags all concurred for reasons of their own. Both are great beers, no doubt about it. Before trying them side by side, Pliny the Elder was my favorite beer of all; but, having them head-to-head that night, the Sculpin was the clear winner.

So Ordered!

Large, grilled USDA Prime Grade Rib-Eyes were also So Ordered!

We had a couple of reds with these - a 2004 Château Pichon Lalande from Alex, and a 2005 Prunotto Barolo Bussia from Richard - both of which I forgot to take photos of, unfortunately. No notes on those two young but nice reds - that night was all about beer for me.

There were other beers, of course, one of which was Jim’s new Ballast Point Tongue Buckler Imperial Red Ale - also robust, moderately hoppy, with underlying well-rounded tasty malt. Quite ice with the rich steaks. I’d like to try this again very soon so I can pay more serious attention to it.

Mags opened several of his Trappist ales as well, but I cannot remember all of them except that at least a couple of them were from Rochefort, one of which was the Rochefort No. 10. By then, Mark Abada, who also happened to be having dinner there, joined us.

Cheers!

Cigars, more wine and some single malts at Kipling’s thereafter. Until the next!!!

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Both of these are amazing beers, no doubt. IMO, PtE is better on tap than it is out of the bottle. I know some others here feel the opposite.

Here’s the beeradvocate list of Top Beers, by style, as rated by the BA community:

American Double/Imperial IPA: (Pliny the Younger, rightfully, tops this list; Pliny the Younger is in third place)

American IPA: (to note, this list is fundamentally flawed b/c Racer 5 isn’t #1, but I give it a pass for naming Surly’s Furious in the #3 spot; Ballast Point’s “Sculpin” does, indeed, top this list)

THanks for conducting this comparative tasting, N; and thank you for posting about it.

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Thanks for the write up and pics.

I thought I wrote about it somewhere in this forum but me and some buddies to Sculpin, PtE and Hopslam together once. 3 very different beers. Hopslam being the most drinkable and a bit different. In general I prefer Sculpin to PtE. Hollingsheads occasionally has them both on tap but I don’t recall ever tasting them side by side. I mean how would I get home!

Jason

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Great write up, and at 10 am that steak looks freaking amazing!!!

JH, I think I need to get over to Hollingshead soon… it’s all of 3 mins away!!

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Well, at least there was good wine, food and friends. [wink.gif]

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Not that you’d be able to tell after these palate wreckers.

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Nice notes, as always. I was lucky enough to have both of these in the past two months, though not side by side. Both are world-class beers. Per my BA notes I liked PtE more, but I used the word ‘elegant’ multiple times in my Sculpin notes which is a word I rarely associate with beer. Thankfully the Sculpin can be found in Ohio, I had to fly to CA to find PtE (visited the brewery towards the end of a Napa/Sonoma trip)

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god damnit, you’ve now just completely set a new (and near impossible) bar to live up to for beer notes [basic-smile.gif]

great report and thanks for the great notes as always [cheers.gif]

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I was just in SF this weekend, and went to the Tornonado both Saturday and Sunday (one of the greatest places on earth flirtysmile ), and I usually have a Pliny when I am there (it has got to be their most popular beer), but IDK, I like the fist half, but it always gets to be too much for me on the second half. They should rename it Piney the Elder. [dontknow.gif]