Any reasonably priced, good quality German or Austrian pinots out there, available in the US? How about lower priced Red Burgundy (under $100) that is not thin and insipid?

I do taste / drink them and I agree with you. And thank you for selling Spatburgunder. I agree wholeheartedly with everything you wrote.

Skurnik has stopped supporting a lot of what helped make them big. And the book is so massive now I don’t see how any winery gets noticed without a ton of luck or sucking up.

I like the new German team and am excited to see what they do. I had dinner with them last week and it was great two producers I had little prior exposure to Burklin-Wolf and Knewitz. And I will get them to focus more on Spatburgunder :slight_smile:

Great wine list by the way (no Fruhburgunder?). New York I am guessing. I tend to work on much smaller markups then most restaurants - that under $60 threshold is big for me. I would love to see what other restaurants you have run into.

We also carry over 100 German beers and hard ciders as well.

You know I made two Frühburgunders Roses in 2023 with Peter Leipold!

And if you can get some Meyer-Nakel Frühburgunder grab it! I actually ordered all of it at Noreetuh. I think they got two bottles.

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I’m glad they have good people on the German side. You didn’t know Burklin Wolf? How?

But their old Theise portfolios (German, Austrian, and Champagne) have fractured from their poor work post Terry.

Not that I did not know them. I have close to 50 or so bottles in the cellar. As you know they have not had a consistent importer for many years and therefore I have not had much recent exposure. This was a dinner with their winemaker who I ended up taking out the following night. Great guy. And BTW the recent wines are excellent. I brought a 2015 Pechstein to a big 2015 tasting with a bunch of somms and wine importers last week and it was a big hit.

I have a small cache of the wines. Would have more but no room!

I have a couple cases each of Meyer-Nakel’s 2022 Fruhburgunder and 2022 Spatburgunder coming. Long time fan. Rudi Wiest introduced me to their wines many years ago.

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Amazing! I love them and Fürst.

As I am sure you know the Fürst daughters who have taken over have a lighter touch. I love the new wines. The full line up is imported by TGWC :wink:

I haven’t had too many German Pinot Noirs, though I really need to change that. Just given the title and request from the OP, I had a wine not too long ago fit this billing: 2020 Domaine Pierre Guillemot Savigny-lès-Beaune 1er Cru "Les Serpentieres”. $50 or so. Absolutely Burgundy, though on the riper end. Not blown out by any means, but a solar Burgundy for sure. I love this producer, and this bottling was one of the more high octane I can remember, nothing thin about it. Always a solid value for me and a wine from a producer I seek out annually.

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Some of the wine I have tried and either disliked, was indifferent towards, or absolutely loved.
Thin or insipid, or both-
2015 Vincent Ledy Les Combes
2015 Vincent Ledy Chorey-les-Beaune Les Beaumonts
2008 Faiveley Mercurey Clos de Myglands
2017 Domaine D’Argenson Cote de Brouilly Cuvee Premiere
2017 Domaine Jean Fournier Marsannay Clos du Roy
2015 Benjamin Leroux Bourgogne
2019 Domaine Michel & Joanna Ecard Savigny-lès-Beaune 1er Cru Les Serpentières

Decent:
2012 Bouchard Père et Fils Volnay 1er Cru Caillerets Ancienne Cuvée Carnot
2015 Monthélie-Douhairet-Porcheret Volnay 1er Cru Champans

Great:
1998 Domaine Comte Georges de Vogue Bonnes-Mares
1996 Leroy Clos de Vougeot
1993 Leroy Vosne-Romanee Le Beaux Monts
2013 Domaine de la Vougeraie Bonnes Mares
2003 Louis Jadot Hospices de Beaune Mazis-Chambertin
2002 Domaine Anne Gros Richebourg

I realize these bottles are out of reach for many of us, and they are only used as examples of truly inspiring wine, some of which I have had the good fortune of tasting with serious and very generous wine collector friends. And of course we are not discussing white Burgundy, which though costly offers more excellent wines under $100, in my humble and non expert opinion.

Last week we tasted at
M&P Rion
Digioia-Royer
Chandon de Briailles
Buffet
P Javillier

None were thin or insipid, but none would be confused for Sonoma or Santa Barbara.

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Domaine des croix 1ers (particularly pertuisots and cents vignes) have consistently impressed me for the money.

Generally anything from Becky wassermans portfolio will be solid.

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Johanneshof Reinisch from Austria makes some lovely Pinot Noir. As do Peter Wagner from Germany.

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