Thörle would be a good entry point. Estate wine, Village (Orts-) wine and single vineyard wines. In the Fass portfolio.
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Not sure price has much to do with it these days. I would think producer style and vintage more important. And with all these ripe vintages, your odds have surely increased for finding richer wines.
I’ve been drinking a bunch of the Rebourgeon wines recently (Pommard, Volnay) for well under $100 for 1er cru. They are focused enough to suit my tastes, but just on the limit, with so much fruit and body that they would probably appeal to your palate as well.
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non-commercial post: The company I founded is the importer for these producers:
Jacqueson (Rully) - Hard to find, but solid, subtle, rich reds at reasonable prices. Retail ~$50.
Richoux (Irancy) - With climate change, Irancy doesn’t have to be thin. Retails ~$35 for village, ~$50 for single vineyard bottlings. Another advantage to this producer is that the wines are released with some bottle age (current releases 2019 and 2021).
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This is the key post here. I like a lot of California Pinot but have not liked these producers 99% of the time bc I just don’t like the style.
In contrast, I really like a lot of the burgs mentioned so far…. So do the math. If you like the style of those Pinots, you prob won’t like many of the recs so far.
Are there any Burgundy producers you have liked? My favorites in the lower cost spectrum… again, you like stuff that I really don’t:
Pavelot SLB 1ers
Audoin Marsannays
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Des Croix Beaune
Gerard Julien
Jouan villages
Rapet (these may fit your preferences better?)
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I would guess he’d find jouan thin, except for maybe from 18-19.
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Exactly what I said, so we agree.
Find out who imports Michael Skurnik wines in your area. One of the most complete catalogs of German Pinot Noir in the country. And do get on Lyle Fass’s mailing list. Imports direct some wonderful Spatburgunders and affordable Burgundy.
These should all be available in the US -
WEINGUT RINGS
SHELTER WINERY (just tasted their entry level 2022, really pretty)
WWEINGUT ZIEREISEN (budding superstar)
WEINGUT DAUTEL
WEINGUT BATTENFELD-SPANIER (stunning)
WEINGUT BRAUNEWELL
WEINGUT ENDERLE & MOLL
WEINGUT WITTMANN
WEINGUT THORLE
There are several Spatburgunders available on the market. I have brought them in for both German wine dinners and PN around the world dinners. The issue for the OP is if he can find a retailer that stocks them. They tend to be slow movers because of their lean(er) style.
Look at the list of the big boy online retailers, they should have a couple for under $50.
+1.
Fleet Street imports them for other markets as well. Killer producer.
Also Jerome Fornerot in St-Aubin, also Fleet Street, even better QPR.
Vom Boden by far has the most complete catalog of Spatburgunder:
Keller
Julian Haart
Max Kilburg
Wasenhaus
Enderle & Moll
Shelter
Durst
Uli Stein
Jonas Dostert (The most exciting Pinot producer in the Mosel)
Lukas Hammelman
Leipold
Stefan Vetter
Glow Glow
Roterfaden
JB Becker
Twardowski
Skurnik only brings in the entry level Ziereisen (Lyle brings in the higher levels), a small amount of Selbach, as far as I know zero Diel, a tiny bit of Dautel.
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I also get the ‘Tschuppen’ and ‘Talrain’ bottlings from Ziereisen through Skurnick. D.I. only. We have the 2020 vintages of each on our wine list.
Love the Talrain.
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According to winesearcher that is a $25-$30 wine. Their top wines are in the $150 range.
Don’t mean to argue but Skurnik has one of the worst Spatburgunder selections and they do not support the category. They have said so in print. It is simply a fact. Fass and Vom Boden are the biggest supporters with Bowler and The German Wine Collection next.
I find the Talrain very different from their Jaspis and Jaspis+ wines. Talrain is approachable now. I admire and respect the Jaspis wines, but they seem like their development is at a glacial pace. My oldest Jaspis is 2016 and I don’t want to touch it for a while.
I agree completely. Can never figure out when to drink the higher end bottlings.
“Worst?” That’s a bit harsh. Fass just sells direct, so those aren’t available to us wholesale. Love Lyle’s catalog (I buy from him). I’m not able to get Wasenhaus, Vom Boden still hasn’t figured out “allocations” yet, so their best wines just go to a couple of markets. And I love the German Wine Collection (the bulk of the catalog being Rudi Wiest discoveries). But Braunewell and Dautel are wonderful producers, and Strub and Darting are absolute killer bargains that I can sell in a restaurant for under $40 a bottle.
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Worst amongst the top 5 or so German focused importers.
Lets not argue I am really happy you love and support German wine. Thank you very much. I hope we can share some wine one day. Maybe with John Ritchie who is close to you : )
You seem to have a beef with importers that don’t focus on the middle part of the country.
I am just a German wine fan who easily drinks more Spatburgunder than any person in the U.S. so have a unique perspective and I understand your frustrations but that does not make your statements which are widely inaccurate, correct.
I did a tasting today with a group of producers that either are not imported or have just started to be imported. And was in the Mosel last weekend.
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What’s inaccurate? I deal with all the importers, grab what I can get and piss and moan over the one’s I can’t. Something like Wasenhaus SHOULD be on our wine list. It’s one of the best Spatburgunder lists in the country (not that there is anyone building a wine list of Spatburgunder in this country).
You said Skurnik has one of the most complete Spatburgunder lists in the country which I am sorry is just widely inaccurate. All of the other things you said I can understand. It sounds like you can get a good selection from them in your market which is wonderful.
Noreetuh has ~35 Spatburgunders on their list and has an incredible relationship with Skurnik. Guess what not one, not one are from Skurnik (I could have missed one or two but you get the point 
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And Robert, you might not taste the lesser expensive Spatburgunders in Germany, rather concentrating on the upper tier of German Spatburgunder. But I am trying to SELL Spatburgunder, and giving someone an affordable Spatburgunder is my goal. We brag about how cheap good German Spatburgunder is, we need to show it. I get a lot of American Pinot Noir drinkers at our place, and they adore the liter bottle of Strub Spatburgunder for $36 on our menu. It’s the showing of that wine that makes them want to take a plunge into the upper tier stuff.
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