So recently I ordered 3 bottles of 2022, Hubert Ligner Morey St. Denis 1er Cru VV
the labels of the bottles I received were named: 2022, Hubert Lignier Morey St. Denis Premier Cru
I contacted my supplier and he told me they were invoiced for the VV and that they have only received these. I thought that maybe Lignier had made a mistake, but then i checked online…
I checked the following resources:
Vinous
Robert Parker
Insideburgundy
WineSearcher
Their own website: hubert-lignier.com
None of these mention any Morey St. Denis Premier Cru, but only the VV variant.
What has happened here? Is the label off? Should it have said 1er Cru VV? or is it a whole nother bottle? Anyone have any info?
to add to this, the Morey St Denis 1er Cru VV is a blend of the two 1er Cru: Faconnières and Chenevery, wines that do not show up on their own, and them being some of their prime real estate I would imagine they still are the contents of the MSD Premier Cru
The thing is. I ordered the VV, the importer were invoice for the VV and now we have the MSD Premier Cru. Which doesn’t seem to exist neither in reviews or on Hubert Lignier’s website
Do you have a photo of the label? If the label states Hubert Lignier (rather than Domaine Hubert Lignier) this may be your answer. Laurent does have a small negociant line (like his Chambolle VV and Clos Vougeot), so this may be from non-domaine fruit he has purchased and not from the Faconnieres/Chenavary plots.
I haven’t been poured the negoce wines on my visits (and haven’t asked), so if this a new negoce cuvee I woudln’t be the most in the know person on the subject. The one I did know about was the Griotte, which I believe he stopped making with the 2020 vintage.
What must have happened is that my supplier received the Negoce Hubert Lignier 1er cru. But they were invoiced the Domaine VV version… all the papers say this. So its a mistaken delivery to them (and they didn’t notice before now)
I wouldn’t presume to be 100% certain since I’ve not asked anyone at the Domaine, but I strongly expect this is correct. The labeling from certain Domaines can create a little confusion because the differences are subtle, so I’m not shocked someone in the retail chain made a mistake, especially since the names are similar.
I’d say I’ll ask next time I visit, but I’m sure someone will have more certain information before that.
Sadly not the first time a similar mistake has been made and also sadly won’t be the last. Envoyer made a similar screw up with an advertised and sold as Domaine Fevre wine, but shipped a negotiant Fevre wine. They didn’t notice it, but their customers did!
Happens. In industry people ship the wrong parts all the time.
Hopefully they can resolve it to your satisfaction.
considering how well known and singular the vv morey 1er is from hubert lignier, i find this terribly misleading for the domaine to be associated with. its just going to cause repeated mistakes for the majority of folks.
I sincerely believe that your merchant should ask for those bottles back, refund and promise to try get the correct wine, and work this out with his supplier in a way that you don’t have to think about it again.
So the only difference here is ‘domaine’ in small letters above Hubert Lignier? Burgundy has always had a reputation as a ‘minefield’, but this seems to me like something that was more acceptable many years ago that is less acceptable now. The difference with Dujac for instance is subtle but far more clear.
