99 Bottles of Wine

[Cris_Whetstone]

@garyc328i

@Bob Wood

Is it good stuff or plonk?

Definately good stuff! I wont drink plonk. Mad dog would qualify for binging in college.

Just to add here, not sitting down and drinking 2 bottles all at once by myself.
2 bottles split between 2 people comes out to be about 5 glasses of wine not perfectly measured. 750 ml
It may even be closer to 4 glasses and is accompanied with food and other beverages mixed in over like a 5 hour period.

I would not call that binge drinking. Binge drinking was in college years with beer.
Binge drinking with wine is not whats going on here.

I just like to explore more than 2 glasses which to a lot of people is alcohlism. That is the debate that is out there.
We not drinking in a vacuum.

No one else drinking more than 2 glasses here? I guess i bucking the 2 glass a day critics. Enjoy your 2 glasses!
ill be on my 4th or 5th for you 1 or 2.

Glasses is very nebulous. Some folks glass is another’s double pour.

I think you qualify for binge drinking if I had to put a label on it which I prefer not to do. That is a lot of wine. I kind of think of the half bottle I typically drink as two glasses even if I pour it more often than that when getting down to a half. I can go over that but I prefer not to. Sometimes I have a late afternoon beer before hitting the wine. I’ve surely drank the equivalent of a full bottle on many occasions but I couldn’t do it very often for fear of how I might feel and what it was doing to my liver.

[Rick_Gregory]

Most people view a glass as 4-6 oz, so there’s 4-6 glasses per bottle by that definition. 5 isn’t a bad ballpark figure, actually. But Don’t tell me that you’re doing this to explore the wine. You could taste as many wines in a week if you split 1 bottle per night vs 2 every other night. That puts you in the 2 to 2.5 glass/night range which your body is probably going to handle better.

[Brian_Zamkotowicz]

@Rick Gregory

And now we get the rationalization and ignoring of people who think it’s a lot. Why ask, then? Oh and drinking more? Doesn’t make you more of a man contrary to your last, pathetic sentence.



Carl - not from what I’ve heard. 1 glass of wine = 1 beer = 1 mixed drink. Roughly, of course since beer varies in alcohol. We’re also talking about a single drink… not a double, etc.

A glass of wine= a beer= 1.5 shot typically. A martini glass runs 5-6 ounces and is predominantly filled with hard alcohol. so might be as much as 3 drinks.

Funny, drinking 2 bottles every other night seems like a lot, but having a glass with dinner and one later every night is basically the same amount of alcohol, but doesn’t seem as extreme.

[garyc328i]

[C_Mc_Cart]

Totally depends on the education of your liver. Is it well educated?

What if you are Angry?

[Rick_Gregory]

@garyc328i

@Rick Gregory

And now we get the rationalization and ignoring of people who think it’s a lot. Why ask, then? Oh and drinking more? Doesn’t make you more of a man contrary to your last, pathetic sentence.



Carl - not from what I’ve heard. 1 glass of wine = 1 beer = 1 mixed drink. Roughly, of course since beer varies in alcohol. We’re also talking about a single drink… not a double, etc.

Please limit yourself to 1 piece of candy, 1 bite of appetizer, and 1 glass of wine or 1 beer, or 1 martini.
to each his own.

Yeah, ignoring you from here on in. You never cared about the answer to your question, you just wanted to troll the board. No more food for you, troll.

[Rick_Gregory]

@Brian Zamkotowicz

@Rick Gregory

And now we get the rationalization and ignoring of people who think it’s a lot. Why ask, then? Oh and drinking more? Doesn’t make you more of a man contrary to your last, pathetic sentence.



Carl - not from what I’ve heard. 1 glass of wine = 1 beer = 1 mixed drink. Roughly, of course since beer varies in alcohol. We’re also talking about a single drink… not a double, etc.

A glass of wine= a beer= 1.5 shot typically. A martini glass runs 5-6 ounces and is predominantly filled with hard alcohol. so might be as much as 3 drinks.

Reread my initial post here. I noted that I was talking about single drinks, not doubles or other oversized drinks (a single martini is ~ 2oz).

Funny, drinking 2 bottles every other night seems like a lot, but having a glass with dinner and one later every night is basically the same amount of alcohol, but doesn’t seem as extreme.

Yep. But it’s because you’re spreading the wine out over time and thus not asking your body to deal with a big hit all at one sitting. But Gary’s not really interested in any of this. He’s just dickswinging under the guise of an honest question. That is, he’s trolling us.

[AKuehn]

@garyc328i

I would not call that binge drinking. Binge drinking was in college years with beer.
Binge drinking with wine is not whats going on here.

I just like to explore more than 2 glasses which to a lot of people is alcohlism. That is the debate that is out there.
We not drinking in a vacuum.

Prove it. Lay off for a week. Why? Because you can. If you can shut it down for a week, you are safely not an alcoholic. Repeat the exercise every six months or so to stay sure. If you find yourself “not wanting” to give it up for a week and rationalizing why you should cave in after a day or two, doubt yourself and seek professional advice. Take it seriously.

[David_Bu3ker]

It’s interesting that the subject was posed as a question, but when responses don’t agree with the OP’s desired answer he is getting very defensive.

Just sayin’.

[David_Wright]

Lots of variation above in what constitutes “a drink.” Here is a calculator that estimates “drink equivalents” based on a standard of 0.6 oz (14 g) of pure alcohol per drink. To use the calculator, all you need to know is the % alcohol of the beverage and the amount in ounces. 750ml (standard wine bottle) = 25.4 oz.

Examples: A martini made with 1.85 oz of 84 proof gin and 0.5 oz 36 proof vermouth (volumes fide IBA/wikipedia) is 1.5 standard drinks. A 5 oz glass of wine at 12.5% ABV is 1 drink. A 12 oz beer at 5.6% is 1.1 drinks.

Drink Size Calculator Rethinking Drinking - NIAAA

[ToddFrench]

@AKuehn

@garyc328i

I would not call that binge drinking. Binge drinking was in college years with beer.
Binge drinking with wine is not whats going on here.

I just like to explore more than 2 glasses which to a lot of people is alcohlism. That is the debate that is out there.
We not drinking in a vacuum.

Prove it. Lay off for a week. Why? Because you can. If you can shut it down for a week, you are safely not an alcoholic. Repeat the exercise every six months or so to stay sure. If you find yourself “not wanting” to give it up for a week and rationalizing why you should cave in after a day or two, doubt yourself and seek professional advice. Take it seriously.

That’s why I’ve just finished a 10-day no-alcohol fast. No problems at all, although I had a couple nights where it ‘would have been nice’ to have a glass of wine with dinner, but it was a breeze.

[Joe_Hauck]

@K John Joseph

A bottle of wine is the equivalent of 6-7 beers. So, going on a third bottle… let’s say your in the 8-9 beer range. To rephrase your question to avoid a touch of bias…

Are you okay with the fact that you’re drinking 7-9 beers a night, every other night?

You’re drinking some bad beer then, Seems most crafts these days are 8% to 11%

[Dav1dZ]

I agree with Rick that this guy is trolling, but it’s remarkable there’s even a debate here:

The guy is consuming 5-6 servings of alcohol in a night, 3-4 times a week, and sometimes more than that (“even going to a 3rd bottle”).

I don’t think there’s a single reasonable source out there that wouldn’t characterize that as problem drinking. And I’m a young guy, and I went to Dartmouth and was in a fraternity, so I know from dickswinging heavy drinking. 5-6 beers in a night 3-4 times a week is a fuckton of drinking even by those college standards. This isn’t imposing some MADD-created arbitrary standard, it’s just a lot of freakin’ alcohol.

[garyc328i]

[Joe_Hauck]

How old are you? When I was younger I could do a bottle easy ( no way every night) Saturday and Sunday though. Now in my mid-forties though I’m shot at half a bottle and have rarely finished a bottle in a night, other than a offline or with a group of people.

Not being able to stop at 2 glasses and using the exploration excuse is clearly a problem in my book. Oh, and I do have one beer every afternoon, but that’s it just one!

[Rick_Gregory]

If you’re not worried about your drinking or have no intention of altering it, why even ask people whether your consumption is bad? Why get defensive and post excuse after excuse when people say that, yes, that’s a lot to drink?

Your replies about ‘enjoy that one bite of an appetizer’ etc are, in fact, dickswinging. It’s classic "I can drink a lot, more is better’ rationalization. As I pointed out, you can try just as many wines if you simply drink a bottle per night vs 2 bottles every other night, so don’t tell us it’s about trying new wines. It’s not. It’s about the buzz.

Here’s the thing, though. None of us care how much you can drink. It doesn’t make you a stud. If you want to do it, do it. If you genuinely feel you might have a problem then take what people say to heart.

[garyc328i]

[K_John_Joseph]

@Joe Hauck

@K John Joseph

A bottle of wine is the equivalent of 6-7 beers. So, going on a third bottle… let’s say your in the 8-9 beer range. To rephrase your question to avoid a touch of bias…

Are you okay with the fact that you’re drinking 7-9 beers a night, every other night?

You’re drinking some bad beer then, Seems most crafts these days are 8% to 11%

You sure got me! Most imperial or double crafts are 8-11%. Many non imperial crafts/singles are 5-6.5. Regardless, generally speaking, light beer, domestics, and beers like guiness, young’s double chocolate, etc. etc. are 4-5.5%, which is consistent with what I posted.

Let’s call it budweisers. Would you be comfortable with your drinking habits pounding 8 buds a night, every other night? It’s easy to rationalize wine drinking because it’s sophisticated, and every experience is different. I get the exploration issue and have continued drinking tastes and pours out of curiosity (at, say, Grailey’s on a Friday with 14 bottles of pure gold open) until I was more inebriated than originally planned. It isn’t always about the buzz. But when you’re making a habit of getting a buzz, regardless of you rationale, you should take a hard look at what you’re doing.

[Joe_Hauck]

@K John Joseph

@Joe Hauck

@K John Joseph

A bottle of wine is the equivalent of 6-7 beers. So, going on a third bottle… let’s say your in the 8-9 beer range. To rephrase your question to avoid a touch of bias…

Are you okay with the fact that you’re drinking 7-9 beers a night, every other night?

You’re drinking some bad beer then, Seems most crafts these days are 8% to 11%

You sure got me! Most imperial or double crafts are 8-11%. Many non imperial crafts/singles are 5-6.5. Regardless, generally speaking, light beer, domestics, and beers like guiness, young’s double chocolate, etc. etc. are 4-5.5%, which is consistent with what I posted.

Let’s call it budweisers. Would you be comfortable with your drinking habits pounding 8 buds a night, every other night? It’s easy to rationalize wine drinking because it’s sophisticated, and every experience is different. I get the exploration issue and have continued drinking tastes and pours out of curiosity (at, say, Grailey’s on a Friday with 14 bottles of pure gold open) until I was more inebriated than originally planned. It isn’t always about the buzz. But when you’re making a habit of getting a buzz, regardless of you rationale, you should take a hard look at what you’re doing.

I should have used this after my post as it was purely sarcastic.

I hope the Budweiser question wasn’t directed at me, if so my answer is hell no. Other than 1 beer in the afternoon after work I gave up drinking on weeknights many years ago.

[Fred_Bower]

One can get lost in conversions and the “how big is your pour” etc. Fundamentally, the math of how much alcohol is in the glass is very easy. Volume poured multiplied by percent alcohol by volume.

A 12.5% Muscadet, poured five glasses to the 750mL bottle gives you 5 ounces * 12.5% = 0.625 ounces of alcohol
A 15% Syrah, poured the same way gives you 0.75 ounces
A 7.5% German Auslese, poured identically gives you 0.375 ounces of alcohol, not surprisingly that’s half the 15% Syrah
Rick’s single martini (I’ll just guess that it’s 2 ounces of 80-proof vodka or gin and no vermouth for easy math) is 0.8 ounces, which is a bit more than the glass of higher-octane wine. I theorize that more rapid consumption and the fact that the higher alcohol concentration leads to faster absorption rates makes a martini seem like it punches above its weight
A 12-ounce bottle of 5% beer gives you 0.6 ounces of alcohol.
As somebody pointed out, beers vary widely today. Many “Imperial” beers are up in the 8-12% alcohol range. Often, they come in a 750 mL bottle. Unless you share or stopper it, you’re plowing through the equivalent of a bottle of middle-weight (alcohol-wise) wine.

I think the original 1 drink = 1 beer = 1 wine was based upon 0.6 ounces of alcohol, or 5 ounces of 12% wine, 12 ounces of 5% beer, or 1.5 ounces of 40% alcohol. If you don’t measure or fiddle with the strength of your drink, you can’t make an apples-to-apples comparison.

The math is really hard when you try to determine your blood alcohol from how much you drank. So far as I know that’s not possible to calculate because it varies depending upon diet, gender, what’s in your stomach when you drink, how fast you drink, and metabolic rates.

I abstain from judgement on your question. I can’t answer whether a bottle+ every other day is bad for you. I drink almost daily. A bottle+ of wine daily would be bad for me because it would adversely impact other parts of my life and I expect it would be a problem for my long-term health, although I’m not qualified to make that assessment professionally. I don’t see the every-other-day piece as the factor here. It’s how much you are consuming in a “session” that will raise flags with clinicians.

If you’re expecting actionable advice from the community here, you should realign your expectations. If you’re looking for moral support of your consumption, you should reflect upon why you need support from us. If you’re simply curious as to how many others out there fit your profile, I expect there will be some reluctance to disclose publicly, as this level of consumption does fit definitions of excessive drinking. I expect Italian and French norms might see this much wine daily as socially acceptable, especially if you split it between lunch and dinner. It’s really easy to have 2-3 glasses at a meal that is leisurely in pace.

Cheers,
fred