4x retail blues, perusing this winelist

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GLASS LIST!

Lots of interesting stuff, not insane pricing, get to try a bunch of different stuff (an obsession of mine):
For the price of an average bottle on this insane list, how about one glass each of:
Billecart-Salmon and/or Albrecht Alsace Rose
Lageder Pinot Grigio and/or Sancerre
Chitry and/or Grgich Chardonnay
Brun Beaujolais and/or Lioco Pinot
Saint Cosme Syrah
Peju Cab and/or Cantemerle

Dan Kravitz

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The Brundlmayer Riesling Lyra is exceptional, in an outstanding vintage, and actually reasonably priced on a resto list.

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Not much with bottle age under $500, but:
2005 Lagrange $315
2006 Beaucastel $250
2014 Vocal PN SCM $120 (don’t know it, but would happily try it)
2008 Montelena Cab $395
2009 Langoa-Barton $290

Why not go to a food truck instead?

Dan Kravitz

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When we were there, I think we went Bojo and Chinon - don’t remember specific producers but not crazy pricing because neither were ‘heavy hitters’…

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Haven’t had it in years…but I’d be all over the Leeuwin Art Riesling at $57!!!

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Lots of good options here:

  • Pewsey Vale Contours Riesling 2011 $85
  • Chateau Musar White 2007 $120
  • Olga Raffault Chinon 2016 $90
  • Ar.Pe.Pe Valtellina Superiore 2015 $130
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I would go with the Musar Blanc. It should pair wonderfully with a wide variety of seafood, and at $120 it is only two times retail. Quite frankly, in the Hawaiian market, the markup on that is probably no more than 1.5x.

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Also a good option if habit drives us towards a full bottle, but in reality a glass is fine, or we’re wanting to match to diverse food

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You should be able to find a nice assortment of Marc Morey whites in Honolulu… fairly priced at the supermarket there! Thanks to board member William gladstones import business in Hawaii of course

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Roederer 242 and the Domaine Huet and call it a day. Two very good wines for a total under your budget. No reason to explode the wallet on crazy markups when these are priced decently, and pair wonderfully with food.

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I think Brian is in Maui.

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If you’re willing to go California style and take a step down in pricing/prestige:

0553 2017 Radio-Coteau Chardonnay SeaBed $165

Nice wine - only a little over 2x retail and has some bottle age.

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Oops. Wailea Wine also has a small but pretty interesting selection. Found quite a lot to like there

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Thanks for the tip.

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Musar white is a great choice. 07 should be drinking well now. Just don’t drink it too cold, let it warm to 55-60.

Huet Le Mont Sec 09 for $117 is a good choice if you want something less exotic than Musar. Retails for $45 or so I think.

Arnot Roberts Watson Ranch chardonnay 2020 for $115 would be good if you like AFWE chardonnay.

There are solid options for gruner veltliner, chablis, Italian whites, and various things.

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I wouldn’t call Watson AFWE, Trout Gulch yes but Watson? I’ll take acid over butter in my Chard any day though.

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12% alcohol and with these kind of notes: 2020 Arnot-Roberts Chardonnay Watson Ranch, USA, California, Napa Valley - CellarTracker!

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My experience is skewed a bit since it’s been 10 years since my last taste.

  • 2012 Arnot-Roberts Chardonnay Watson Ranch - USA, California, Napa Valley (11/3/2013)
    From pick-up day.
    Nose of white flowers and vanilla cream soda. Creamy palate of honeysuckle, crushed rock mild acidity and a slightly oily texture. White flowers on the finish. Neutral oak, Duncan said the vanilla is site specific and not oak driven.
  • 2010 Arnot-Roberts Chardonnay Watson Ranch - USA, California, Napa Valley (4/9/2011)
    Tasted at the Arnot-Roberts pick-up party. This limestone vineyard chard was the opposite of the rocky volcanic Matthiasson. Dark golden color. Big fruit driven nose and palate. Green apple, pear and a hint of peach. Nice texture and structure. Full mouthfeel with balancing acidity, minerality and juicy richness. Stainless steel fermentation and neutral French oak. Another very nice effort. (92 points)

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surprised no mention of the Aubert chard. That would be a strong candidate in my book

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Very important point re: serving temp. of the Musar, if you go that way.

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