I saw an offer today from Morrell’s for '13 DP at $285. As a comparison, they offered the '12 on release for $214. Reviews are not that much different between the vintages, Suckling rated '13 a little higher, William rated it a little lower. NYC retailers are never the cheapest, but this does not bode well for the price of '13 from other retailers. The '12 is now selling for $220 in my neighborhood.
Costco was, I believe $189 for 12. We will see what 13 costs.
It’s my understanding that LVMH is targeting a market price of $250 for DP. When that was supposed to materialize is any one’s guess, but that was what I had heard.
easy pass at that price for new release.
I haven’t heard that it’s out yet. Probably just taking pre-orders at what they anticipate will be a hefty enough margin to justify the risk.
I see this popping up a lot in Europe so I would imagine it will release in the states soon. Agree that it isn’t going to move well if it arrives at $250 from the start
Just heard from one of my EU sources. He is anticipating first tranche release price will be £870 per 6 up from £660 per 6 on the '12. That’s right in line with the current '12 DP and CdC pricing.
current NYC wholesale price posted is $200 p.b for 2010, 2012, and 2013.
there’s a reserve bottling price posting of $125 for the 2013 - this may have historically been BTG pricing for on-premise.
this doesn’t mean you can buy them, but that’s the prices posted which should tell you where they think the wines will go going forward.
the days of DP for under $200 retail are likely long gone.
If they are moving on to another vintage already, then the global demand is high enough that it can. LVMH has incredible branding right now. Arnault is the richest man in the world, so I think they know what they are doing
Yeah, and you figure that most will sell for 20-30% mark up, which would be between $240 and $260 a bottle.
Was $174.99 on release then went up a couple months later.
180 at my store (SoCal)
That a hefty 32% increase for UK residents, but only a 16% increase for US residents buying in the UK thanks to the stronger dollar. I wonder how they are going to play the allocation game this year? IIRC, the £660 price was a one-day first tranche deal.
This does not bode well for me buying my ‘14 and ‘16 kids DP…
I got a case of '12 from Single Thread for $162/btl. When it arrived, I realized it was the BTG bottling. It tastes the same to me as the regular bottling but I don’t think they are supposed to sell those retail.
I don’t know about one day, but it was very brief. I got a measly 2 cases from 2 sources and next offers were at £850 and have been holding steady since then. But that was back in 2021, which one could almost say qualifies as the “good ol’ days” in the fast changing world of Champagne buying.
The '12 CdC first tranche late last year was worse and that’s what I predict for '13 DP. Miniscule quantities and second hand offers at +30% will start almost immediately.
I agree, and a lot of those flippers are going to be the ones who got the allocation at the first tranche pricing.
it’s the same wine - just different price structure as an incentive to restaurants. makes sense re: single thread as it’s a restaurant also.
at this point, that’s a screaming deal. i’d buy as much as you can carry. the replacement cost is much higher.
Lol. That was release. I bought what I could (not much). Of course, I wish I’d bought cases more.