2009 vs 2010 Cote de Beaune red Burgundy

Anyone care to discuss the differences in the vintages overall?

Any particular great standouts from either vintage?

So far I’ve drank a 2009 Gaunoux Corton Renardes which was really nice, a 2010 Montille Pommard Rugiens Bas which was even better.

I have currently ordered and on the way:

  • 2009 Clos de Corton Faiveley
  • 2010 Drouhin Clos de Mouches
  • 2010 Domain de Croix Corton La Vigne Aux Saint
  • 2009 Comtes Lafon Volnay Santenots de Milieu

Please free to make any recommendations.

IMO 2010 Jadot Beaune Ursules is a great wine, a term I use rarely. Should still be available for a not-crazy price. It started life a little tough, but has really begun to open up, I had one last month. But I think it is still 10 years from full maturity.

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Very general here, but 09s are denser, more muscular. '10s well balanced and finer. Both vg vintages, but quite different.
Suggest trying to find some JM Bouley Volnay and Pommards.
I have some 09 Faiveley Clos des Cortons but don’t expect to open any for some time.
Jadot Beaunes always great - especially Ursules and Couchereaux.

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Thanks for the suggestions.

Faiveley 09 Corton is very nice.

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Drinking well now or would you hold?

Both.

I have had 4 of 9, surprisingly open for a Corton.

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Both reliable vintages, I just love the ‘10s across the board. ‘09s can be a little stodgy at times but really it’s picking knits. Wine is emotional for me, 2010s are just fantastic.

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Thanks!

Generalization ahead: At the village and premier cru level I feel like 10’s are drinking great. Things that I’ve had that I really liked, Coche reds (which are actually not that expensive), de Montille bottles (one of my favorite domaines that few ppl in the states seem to care about), and as others have mentioned, the better Jadot Beaune bottlings can offer stunning value for money//ease of acquisition. 09’s mostly seem like they havent dont anything yet. Theyre pretty dense and round and most of the bottles I have tried (admittedly none yet this year that I can think of) havent really evolved or done anything. In that way they sort of remind me of the best 2012s.

I know they can be polarizing but I would buy Pousse d’Or 10’s w both hands. They dont hold value for shit and the guy makes pretty great wine. As mentioned above, I love de Montille. I really like Chandon de Briailles but the style then and the style now arent the same. Christain has a real hand in the winemaking now and the wines have gotten both lighter and finer. i own some 10s (think i mostly have Marechaudes left) and it’s totally good wine but seemingly less refined than things made from 2014 onwards.

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I love the 2010 vintage, like the 2009. That Drouhin is a favorite of mine; I have purchased a case of the 2010 - but only have four in my cellar. :cry:

I can’t help but think 2009 doesn’t even come close to how great 2010 is. I tend to like pinot for its elegance, subtlety and fruitiness, my favorite plots being suchots, RSV, murgers, charmes/chapelle chambertin, chabolle charmes and 2010 highlights their characteristically unique subtlety the best. Similar for 2016 but still inferior to 2010 in terms of subtlety. 2009 may have the fruitiness and weight but hard to find subtlety due to the imbalance of grape proportion.

Although I will occasionally buy '09s on weaker plots due to finite buying power…

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You mean the Mouches?

Is it drinking really well now?

Thanks Sam, can you please recommend a few Suchots producers?

I haven’t had it in a couple of years so no idea. It may have shut down.

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I took your advice. Yesterday I bought the following:

6 pack of 2010 Dom. de Montille Volnay 1er Cru Taillepieds

2 bottles of 2010 Pousse d’Or Corton Clos de Roi.

The day before your kind response came I also got a six pack of Comtes Lafon Volnay Santenots du Milieu 2009.

Can’t wait for this stuff to get here.

Have a great Fourth!

Goodluck w them
Depending on your level of thirst I’ve had good success w pousse d’or on day 2 generally so if you leave a glass and a half behind it’s not always the worst. Don’t think I’ve had the same experience w Montille specifically

Thanks so much! In order to do that, do you leave the wine exposed to the air, like in a decanter, or should you put the cork back in the bottle? Also, best in the fridge or at room temp?

Thanks again.

In bottle in cellar (slow ox style) w cork back in it