2009 Burgundy, What Have You Purchased...

[Peter_Hirsch]

@rob klafter

Hirsch comes out of the weeds the weekend when the jets play for SB? Coincidence? Omen? Double rainbow what does it mean?

Got to be, yes Rob? Superbowl bound, I just hope ‘Big Ben’ holds the ball a little too long, all day…
Thinking of running over to either Bens or Smokin’ Al’s for today’s feast!!

[Peter_Hirsch]

@Danius Barzdukas

…we’ll see what happens to the market for 09s when (if?) the economy/financial system cracks up again (later this year perhaps?)…

Nah. too many ‘bubble searchers’ now. The world comes to an end when people are complacent. Now, no one complacent. Searching for tails/bubbles is the new global sport.

[Howard_Cooper]

@Peter Hirsch

'07 and '08 just a different ‘product’ vs. '09. Can find great '09s in all price ranges, just focus on Village level wines from really good producers. I’d rather have '09 Bachelet ‘Gevrey Chambertin VV’ vs say the '08 or '07 1ers from the same producer. Prob same price point, but the '09s sound ‘tastier’. Caveat, I’ve tasted neither, just going on past history.

Really, going on past history, would you rather have a 2001 Bachelet 1er Cru or a the 2002 VV?

And with some producers like Jadot, I am seeing some wines where the price differences are almost double. For 2008 Jadot, I paid $51 for Corton-Pougets, $120 for Bonnes Mares, $68 for Clos Vougeot, $67 for CSJ and $33 for Ursules. I doubt I will see comparable wines at comparable values for 2009.

So far, all I have purchased is Maison Ilan in 2009. I am sure I will buy more since I am much younger than Maureen , but I am also looking at 2006-2008s. I think there are and will be many values to be found in these very good vintages.

[Howard_Cooper]

@maureen nelson

I’m with alan on this. Apart from my half case allocations of a friend’s Hospice des Beaune annual buy, I’m buying nothing - or at least trying to buy nothing.

I remember you saying the same thing with respect to 2005s. How many did you buy? I doubt you will buy less than 5 cases of 2009s, probably more like 10 or more.

[M_Kelly]

@Peter Hirsch

Hi Berry, thanks for the “Welcome Back”. I think I’ll get back in the habit of checking in here more regularly.

Mike, your email pulled me back in, your fault!

Just hard to turn down the allocations in a good/great vintage, yes? The buzz starts again, a little excitement, and all of a sudden you’re hunting around for ‘Gaudichots’ or ‘Christianne’ or some other small production ‘oddity’.

In terms of pricing, somewhat 2 sided. At least what I’ve seen, some producers keeping prices in line with the Euro + a little bit each vintage, and some escalating hard and fast.

Hah! Read your initial post and figured that was it. Welcome back! Despite all that Jets crap on your posts!

Look forward to reading your laundry list of incredible buys. I am just trying to work my way up the food chain, without bothering those guys too much. Glad you turned me on to buying in Europe for sure. Sooooooooooo much “cheaper.” 07 Leflaive Chevy for 245…goes on and on.

Surely someone here has visited Leflaive and tasted this Charmes Chambertin? I am buying it on hope alone.

Mike

[Peter_Hirsch]

@Howard Cooper

Really, going on past history, would you rather have a 2001 Bachelet 1er Cru or a the 2002 VV?

Can I have both? I really like '01, lots of delicious there, also some good structure…

[dbailey]

My advice, based on the very limited number I have tasted, is back up the truck for all the 09 village and 1er cru wines from your favourite producers and backfill grand crus from 08.

Here’s a list of 09s that I’ve either bought or am trying to buy:

Fourrier

• Gevrey Chambertin
• Gevrey Chambertin Cherbaudes
• Gevrey Chambertin Combe au Moine
• MSD Clos Solon

Mugneret-Gibourg

• Vosne Romanee
• NSG Chaignots

Mugnier NSG Clos de la Marechale

Drouhin musigny

Mason Ilan

• charmes chambertin
• chambertin

Le Moine

• VR Suchots
• VR Malconsorts

Cathiard VR

Hudelot-Noellat

• Chambolle Musigny
• Vosne Romanee
• Vosne Romanee Suchots

Bachelet

• Gevrey Chambertin VV

Dujac MSD

Pousse d’Or Volnay Clos de la Bousse d’Or

Faiveley clos DES cortons

Groffier

• Bourgogne Rouge
• Bonnes Mares

[Howard_Cooper]

@Peter Hirsch

@Howard Cooper

Really, going on past history, would you rather have a 2001 Bachelet 1er Cru or a the 2002 VV?

Can I have both? I really like '01, lots of delicious there, also some good structure…

Peter

I agree. There is so much good Burgundy these days it is fun to try most vintages from good producers and see what happens to them. Can I hpave both seems the best response.

[Kent_Comley]

So far:-

Hudelot-Noellat
Clavelier
De Villaine Mercurey
Jean Marc Vincent
Buisson-Charles

Will end up with similar quantities to 2008 I expect, a vintage which i’m pretty excited by.

[A_Songeur]

So far:
Grivot and then Fourrier, Roumier, Hudelot, Faiveley, Jadot, Bouchard

[brodie_thomson]

@Mike During

I will not go anywhere as deep as I did with 05, simply do not have the cellar space, or dollars. Still bought some Bouchard, Faiveley, Gouges (first since 05), Comte Armand, Bruno Clavelier, Hudelot-Noellet, F Esmonin, and have the likes of DRC, Comte Liger-Belair, Rousseau, Mugnier, Bachelet, Sylvie Cathiard, Roumier… reserved on the books of the importers for a few bottles as their allocation is confirmed.

Hi Mike, similar tastes in burgs indeed. I have gotten Bouchard, Faiveley, Clavelier, Gouges & Hudelot-Noellet so far and am waiting the usual suspects as well (Bachelet, Fourrier, Rousseau, Roumier & Mugnier)

Take care Brodie

[Nick_Ryan]

Anyone knows of a reliable Bachelet source in the US ping me…

[brodie_thomson]

@Nick Ryan

Anyone knows of a reliable Bachelet source in the US ping me…

Sorry Nick, cant’ help as both Mike and I buy our burgs in NZ.

Brodie

[Ian_Fitzsimmons]

@Kent Comley

So far:-

Hudelot-Noellat
Clavelier
De Villaine Mercurey
Jean Marc Vincent
Buisson-Charles

Will end up with similar quantities to 2008 I expect, a vintage which i’m pretty excited by.

Montots? Interesting choice. Who’s offering it already?

[Nick_Ryan]

Esmonin Ruchottes, Esmonin Estournelles. Both seem to be widely available now at extremely good prices given the love heaped upon them by Meadows and Tanzer this vintage.

[Keith_Levenberg]

Great to see the return of Peter and this thread, reminds me of the good old days!
I’m pretty sure the only 2009s I’ve ordered so far are Chevillon Les Saint Georges and Jadot Clos de la Croix de Pierre. It definitely seems less critical to buy on prearrival this year relative to the 2005s, but it’s probably worthwhile if you see a wine you want at a price in line with the last few vintages.

[Barry_L_i_p_t_o_n]

09 Chevillon Cailles was $110 from one of my regular sources. That made me realize the folly of intended ways.

[Nick_Ryan]

@Barry L i p t o n

09 Chevillon Cailles was $110 from one of my regular sources. That made me realize the folly of intended ways.

Yikes, even Zachy’s has this for $99. (You know you got ripped off when…)

[David_Strange]

Morning all,

I am irritatingly fortunate to have a few small allocations from producers I visit every year - cellar door prices really assist those of us who are hard of income.

Beyond that, there are three wines I am willing to sell my somewhat abused internal organs to acquire. De Courcel’s Pommard 1er Rugiens is frightfully fabulous, and there has been a strong suggestion I can procure three magnums of it. I love mags. Gouges Nuits 1er Clos des Porrets is one of the best young Gouges I’ve had in an age (I am yet to try Vaucrains or Les Saint Georges) and is almost embarrassingly affordable. Finally there is a wine I have had varying success with, but the 09 is the most ravishing example I’ve tasted and jeroboams were on offer, so I’ll be scoring a single, silly-sized bottle of Pernand-Vergelesses 1er Cru Ile de Vergelesses from Chandon de Briailles.

There are so many wines from 09 that are tumescent with lubricity but still harmonious and engorged with intellectual interest that Pinotophiles should not hold back. The 09 offer tastings I attended were mirth-tastic. If I had the sponds I’d be buying some Chablis too, but as I am sure we are all aware the first quality of wine is to be red.

Anon,
David.

[Peter_Hirsch]

Hi David. Nothing more fun than big bottles of Burg. A little hard to come by at times, that’s what makes it fun!

Some more, this week…

Leflaive - Clavoillon and Chevvy Mont
d’Angerville - Ducs
Arnoux - Suchots
Groffier - Amoureuses
and
Roumier - Chambolle, Cras, Amour and BM.

And on to next week!

Keith, can’t worry about the past. These are the ‘good new days’… But the '05 chase was fun as late '06 into '07 was such a pleasant time…