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#1 Post by J a y H a c k » July 17th, 2018, 9:42 am

No, I did not forget, but due to some family medical issues that have taken up time and diverted my attention, I have not been able to push this down the court and now I have too many conflicts, so we're moving the date to January 2019.

After the various comments below, my best synthesis of an idea is to A) make sure we cover all of the vintages; B) get as many bottles of MacDonald in house as possible (multiple bottles of each vintage) to make sure everyone gets a good healthy pour; and C) have a limited number of non-MacDonald attendees based upon space availability who are willing to pledge bottles of things like Tete de Cuvee Champagnes as starters and d'Yquem or Nacional or similar items for dessert. My current thinking about a location is Bobby Vans on 54th Street in Manhattan. There will be an excess of red meat. For those who thing that MacDonald will go well with vegetarian food, I will ask the chef to make you something. They have a private room and a bigger mostly private room so there is flexibility if we schedule mid-week. I will coordinate with Graeme and Alex - I have already asked them for their availability during January. If you have comments, please yell at me below. I will post an exact date as soon as I work that out with the boys and the restaurant. I want to start early so we have plenty of time to watch the wines develop and not be rushed.

PS - I got my 2015 today.

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I have every vintage of MacDonald Cab since 2010. I do not have the 2009 (although I have tasted it two or three times) because Alex quoted a price of $1 million per bottle and I told him what to do with it. neener I am prepared to put up one or maybe more of my bottles to create a vertical of all MacDonald Cabs ever made.

So here is the idea. We will have a six or seven (if someone has a 2009) bottle MacDonald vertical offline at which we will all put up a bottle of MacDonald and if there is room left, others can join in with something else. Suggesting DRC as a counterpoint is too aggressive, but if anyone wants to offer one up, I will guaranty a seat. Screaming Eagle is in the DRC category. I have had neither of those.

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#2 Post by Dan Hammer » July 17th, 2018, 11:27 am

Sure.


I have a '14 MacDonald, along with other horrible wine such as:

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#3 Post by Derek P » July 17th, 2018, 1:28 pm

Jay, I'm definitely in if I can make it work with my travel schedule.

Only have a '14 MACDONALD, but could bring other stuff
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#4 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » July 17th, 2018, 1:38 pm

I think 14 people is too many people to really get a taste of each bottle. Would cap at 10, or 12 at most, if the idea is for everyone to taste each wine.

I have some recent vintage MACDONALD, as well as older Schrader, Scarecrow, Araujo, Maybach. Depending on date, I would be interested, but if it's Nov/Dec, I will most likely be in Florida!

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#5 Post by cjsavino » July 17th, 2018, 1:57 pm

No MacDoanld here, but can provide Maybach, SQN, or champagne
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#6 Post by CliftonD » July 17th, 2018, 2:20 pm

Jay - I'd be interested as well. However, I'd be in camp (B). November or December works as long as it's not Sunday :)
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#7 Post by mattcitrang » July 17th, 2018, 2:45 pm

I’d like to attend. I can bring a 2015 MAC. Assuming that it’s delivered by then.

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#8 Post by J a y H a c k » July 17th, 2018, 2:57 pm

I am advised that the 2015 will ship the end of October, weather permitting.
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#9 Post by mattcitrang » July 17th, 2018, 3:04 pm

My 2014 was delivered on Nov. 21.

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#10 Post by Jonathan Sirot » July 17th, 2018, 3:32 pm

I am definitely interested. I have the 13,14 and 15 but it sounds like the 13 works as others have offered the 14 and 15 or have other Cali Cults.

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#11 Post by mattcitrang » July 17th, 2018, 3:51 pm

Jonathan Sirot wrote:I am definitely interested. I have the 13,14 and 15 but it sounds like the 13 works as others have offered the 14 and 15 or have other Cali Cults.
You have the 2015 already?

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#12 Post by Er€z _ L. » July 18th, 2018, 7:15 pm

Since I take partial blame at the tasting, I will be there with a '13 MacDonald
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#13 Post by Craig G » July 18th, 2018, 9:15 pm

I’d like to come to NYC again to drink with all of you, but I’m limited on these wines. I would have 14/15 MacDonald but other options would be mostly Bordeaux.
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#14 Post by Mark Y » July 18th, 2018, 9:29 pm

mattcitrang wrote:
Jonathan Sirot wrote:I am definitely interested. I have the 13,14 and 15 but it sounds like the 13 works as others have offered the 14 and 15 or have other Cali Cults.
You have the 2015 already?
“Once the 15s deliver”.... says the OP.
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#15 Post by Jonathan Sirot » July 19th, 2018, 1:48 am

mattcitrang wrote:
Jonathan Sirot wrote:I am definitely interested. I have the 13,14 and 15 but it sounds like the 13 works as others have offered the 14 and 15 or have other Cali Cults.
You have the 2015 already?
Absolutely have the 15s already ! When I landed my private jet in Napa then flew my solar powered helicopter onto the propertyI asked the brothers after the tasting if I could have an early release for the road and they complied. ;) In all seriousness meant to say I will have 15s soon

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#16 Post by Jonathan Sirot » July 19th, 2018, 1:55 am

Er€z _ L. wrote:Since I take partial blame at the tasting, I will be there with a '13 MacDonald


Erez I already offered up the 13 but can easily offer a Greer a Materium a Myriad Elysian or others if you wish to fill that spot, or have some awesome champagne to offer. As I usually bring 2 blts can bring a red AND the bubbly.

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#17 Post by Diane Kessler » July 19th, 2018, 3:42 pm

Like many here, I only have the 2014, but have a few other California Cabs that I could offer.

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#18 Post by Craig G » July 19th, 2018, 3:54 pm

Clearly there’s an opportunity to test the differences in popping/pouring, slow-oxing and decanting wines by blind tasting multiple bottles of 2014 and/or 2015!
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#19 Post by Er€z _ L. » July 19th, 2018, 5:13 pm

Jonathan Sirot wrote:
Er€z _ L. wrote:Since I take partial blame at the tasting, I will be there with a '13 MacDonald


Erez I already offered up the 13 but can easily offer a Greer a Materium a Myriad Elysian or others if you wish to fill that spot, or have some awesome champagne to offer. As I usually bring 2 blts can bring a red AND the bubbly.
Did not see that before [cheers.gif]
You'd bring the '13, and I'd open the list of bubblies in my cellar and bring one with some nice age :-)
(you can bring one too, I never say no to more bubbles)
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#20 Post by Merrill Lindquist » July 19th, 2018, 5:39 pm

Dan Hammer wrote:Sure.


I have a '14 MacDonald, along with other horrible wine such as:

EMH Special Selection.
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Myriad and Sojourn G3.
Dan, if you are going to offer one of my horrible wines, I opened a 2013 Special Selection for some Seattle friends and a Sommelier and some restaurant staff yesterday...it's in a good place for a young wine. Not a cult wine, but in the horrible wine section.

Dr. Lenchner might be able to help you out in a pinch...a 2014 Special or Sparkles. People really going to open 2015s? I wonder how my 2015 Lady Sapphire Single Barrel is doing, but I don't wonder enough to open one for myself.
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#21 Post by Erich Sachse » July 19th, 2018, 7:23 pm

I’d come up to NY for this if the date works and can offer ‘11 or ‘12 since those seem uncovered at present

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#22 Post by Dan Hammer » July 20th, 2018, 7:07 am

Merrill Lindquist wrote:
Dan Hammer wrote:Sure.


I have a '14 MacDonald, along with other horrible wine such as:

EMH Special Selection.
Maybach
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Myriad and Sojourn G3.
Dan, if you are going to offer one of my horrible wines, I opened a 2013 Special Selection for some Seattle friends and a Sommelier and some restaurant staff yesterday...it's in a good place for a young wine. Not a cult wine, but in the horrible wine section.

Dr. Lenchner might be able to help you out in a pinch...a 2014 Special or Sparkles. People really going to open 2015s? I wonder how my 2015 Lady Sapphire Single Barrel is doing, but I don't wonder enough to open one for myself.
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#23 Post by Merrill Lindquist » July 20th, 2018, 9:07 am

Dan Hammer wrote:
Merrill Lindquist wrote:
Dan Hammer wrote:Sure.


I have a '14 MacDonald, along with other horrible wine such as:

EMH Special Selection.
Maybach
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Myriad and Sojourn G3.
Dan, if you are going to offer one of my horrible wines, I opened a 2013 Special Selection for some Seattle friends and a Sommelier and some restaurant staff yesterday...it's in a good place for a young wine. Not a cult wine, but in the horrible wine section.

Dr. Lenchner might be able to help you out in a pinch...a 2014 Special or Sparkles. People really going to open 2015s? I wonder how my 2015 Lady Sapphire Single Barrel is doing, but I don't wonder enough to open one for myself.
Merrill.

For clarity... it's the '09 10th Anniversary Special Selection.
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#24 Post by J a y H a c k » July 21st, 2018, 8:06 am

I just checked back in to see how this was going. Dr. Lenchner? Who came up with that crap. . . but now back to our regularly scheduled programming.

Someone has suggested the idea of two bottles of each vintage with different decant regimens. Let's say a pop and pour and a four hour decant. The makes the logistics a but more complicated, but I'm thinking about it.
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#25 Post by mike pobega » July 21st, 2018, 8:22 pm

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#26 Post by Craig G » July 21st, 2018, 8:43 pm

J a y H a c k wrote:Someone has suggested the idea of two bottles of each vintage with different decant regimens. Let's say a pop and pour and a four hour decant. The makes the logistics a but more complicated, but I'm thinking about it.
Actually, my suggestion is three bottles each of 14 and 15, since those are the ones that many people will have. Then one bottle each of the others.

The three bottles would be pop/pour, slow ox, and decant.
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#27 Post by Merrill Lindquist » July 24th, 2018, 5:19 am

J a y H a c k wrote:I just checked back in to see how this was going. Dr. Lenchner? Who came up with that crap. . . but now back to our regularly scheduled programming.

Someone has suggested the idea of two bottles of each vintage with different decant regimens. Let's say a pop and pour and a four hour decant. The makes the logistics a but more complicated, but I'm thinking about it.
I came up with "that crap." Far as I know, my good Friend Erez has his Phd and I was playfully referring to him as we do Doc or Counselor. You have a problem with that Mr. Hack?
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#28 Post by Thomas Rippe » July 27th, 2018, 10:35 pm

I'm interested and would bring 'something else'. Tom

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#29 Post by David Cohen » July 31st, 2018, 6:08 am

count me in. no MacDonald here but can bring something bubbly,something sweet or something in between.

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#30 Post by J a y H a c k » August 16th, 2018, 7:37 pm

Bump. I'm trying to focus on a good date. I'm thinking something about the second weekend in November. Not that I want to mix politics with drinking, but maybe we can have some wine tasting of Blue - berries to celebrate that weekend.
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#31 Post by Dan Hammer » August 16th, 2018, 8:34 pm

You mean Veteran's Day weekend?
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#32 Post by T. Melloni » August 16th, 2018, 10:57 pm

I'd like to join. Limited selection in hand, as in 14 or 15. I could, however, bring something else from "this blessed plot, this earth, this realm..."
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#33 Post by cjsavino » August 17th, 2018, 6:19 pm

Those would be good weekends, past that and it gets to holiday prep time
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#34 Post by NED VALOIS » August 17th, 2018, 6:45 pm

FYI;
ZOWIE !
Auction of Finest & Rarest Wines (Aug. 17th) 10 watched lots 2010 MacDonald Cabernet Sauvignon
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#35 Post by J a y H a c k » August 17th, 2018, 7:04 pm

NED VALOIS wrote:
August 17th, 2018, 6:45 pm
Size
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Sold $6,500 [cheers.gif] [wow.gif] [cheers.gif]
I am filing a formal complaint. I have been on MacDonald since the beginning and I don't get offered 9 bottles of a vintage.
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#36 Post by NED VALOIS » August 17th, 2018, 8:29 pm

I TRIED BUT GOT WAAAAY OUTBID !

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#37 Post by Steve Eisenhauer » August 23rd, 2018, 1:42 pm

NED VALOIS wrote:
August 17th, 2018, 6:45 pm
FYI;
ZOWIE !
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Size
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Sold $6,500 [cheers.gif] [wow.gif] [cheers.gif]
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#38 Post by Dan Hammer » August 24th, 2018, 1:51 pm

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You mean Veteran's Day weekend?
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#39 Post by Dan Hammer » September 16th, 2018, 7:38 pm

Youhoo Jay.

Any update for us?

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#40 Post by Jonathan Sirot » September 16th, 2018, 9:03 pm

I am still interested, with the 2013 committed to the event. My schedule is flexible. As I do have a compulsion of bringing two bottles to events, would also be happy to add a bottle of excellent Champagne or high end Cab.

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#42 Post by AlexO » October 5th, 2018, 2:39 pm

Erich Sachse wrote:
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I’d come up to NY for this if the date works and can offer ‘11 or ‘12 since those seem uncovered at present
If only someone had a bottle of the '09 to contribute

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#43 Post by AlexO » October 5th, 2018, 2:44 pm

I would be interested in attending along with a friend who is also MacDonald crazy. We could each potentially contribute a bottle from the '11 through '13 vintages or we could contribute some Mondavi To Kalon from '97 - 2001, 2006,2007 when they used basically MacDonald and Monastery Block Grapes only in the bottlings.

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#44 Post by Er€z _ L. » October 25th, 2018, 12:25 pm

Still waiting with either MacDonald or something else
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#45 Post by T. Melloni » October 25th, 2018, 1:08 pm

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Youhoo Jay.

Any update for us?

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#46 Post by J a y H a c k » October 25th, 2018, 7:31 pm

Sorry. It's been a really bad and crazy two months for me. I have to follow up with The Boys to see when they can make it. We almost had a date but it slipped a bit. The plan is simple. Bobby Vans Steakhouse 54th street location Private Room and too much wine.
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#47 Post by Er€z _ L. » October 26th, 2018, 8:59 am

J a y H a c k wrote:
October 25th, 2018, 7:31 pm
Sorry. It's been a really bad and crazy two months for me. I have to follow up with The Boys to see when they can make it. We almost had a date but it slipped a bit. The plan is simple. Bobby Vans Steakhouse 54th street location Private Room and too much wine.
I think I can live with that plan [winner.gif]
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#48 Post by Mark Y » October 26th, 2018, 9:13 am

What’s the “pay it forward” aspect if this event?


(Just curious. Can’t be in nyc sadly).
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Mark Y wrote:
October 26th, 2018, 9:13 am
What’s the “pay it forward” aspect if this event?


(Just curious. Can’t be in nyc sadly).
pay it forward relates to the idea that there might be some poor young children who are now street legal in the wine drinking business who would otherwise have no chance to drink any MacDonald who might be allowed to lick the bottles.
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#50 Post by Mark Y » October 26th, 2018, 10:13 am

Ah ok. So people who don’t have mcD are also allowed to attend the event? That’s a good idea! :)
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