Romanee Saint-Vivant is a very interesting vineyard and in my view a rising star in Burgundy. The history of the vineyard and ownership is however somewhat complex…
I have tried to map the historic and current ownership of RSV … below is a map of the southern part of RSV.
The rest can be found in the full article along with maps and the historic ownership of the different plots.
These wines have a very special place in my heart. They are so spicy and very feminine compared to La Tache and Richebourg.
I have a question for you.
Does Vincent Mugnier from JJ Confuron get his grapes from the Poisot plot or one of the others?
That Louis Latour plot is HUGE. DRC I know is 5 hectares of the old Marey-Monge plot. The other 3 hectares plus belong to Louis Latour now. The DRC plot has to be up there close to Louis Latour.
So many questions here. Thanks for doing this.
Addendum: Now after reading this fabulous piece. My questions are answered. As I said before, you could charge for this kind of information. What a treat. Many thanks Steen!
You should write a book. No kidding this is really well organized and informative. For others, the map above is only one very small section of RSV. A famous one however.
Confuron has his own plot in the nothern part … the Louis Latour plot was 1.6 ha and split between Louis Latour and his sister Poisot - back in 1902. 0.8 ha is still owned by Louis Latour - Poisot has 0.5 ha and l’Arlot has 0.25 ha.
What’s the inheritance tax like in France these days?
If it’s anything like the USA, then I don’t see how any of these families could afford to pay it so as to keep their holdings in these famous vineyards.
Another great post and resource. I think, however, you may be missing an owner: Franck Follin, of the primarily Aloxe/Pernand estate, Domaine Follin-Arbelet. I haven’t had time to check the Pitiot resource I linked to in my response of your Richebourg opus of the other day (he lists owners of all the Grands Crus), but I know Follin-Arbelet makes a RSV. (I own some!) Jasper Morris in Inside Burgundy doesn’t list him as an owner, but I have found him a little less complete than the Pitiot Climats book.
As far as I know he owns the vines there and that is the impression, however vaguely expressed, I get from Kermit Lynch’s profile as well.
Question: what about Follin-Arbelet?
As far as I´m concerned Michel Voarick worked the Poiset-parcel on a sharecropping contract until (app.) 1990, afterwards Follin-Arbelet. Both are certainly no negociants.
Also Drouhin got their RSV from this source.
Or am I wrong?
Gerhard - Voarick’s RSV was made on the Poisot plot … most likely on the plot they sold to l’Arlot back in 1990. Poisot had 0.75 ha but 0.25 ha was sold of in 1990.
I have tried to make a overview of the different wines made on RSV … in this article:
I read you note on the 2004 Hudelot Noellat RSV. A little bit of pine needles but generally sounded quite good. Did you ever have that wine previously?
Steen,
looking on your article: I´m not so sure that Voarick and later Follin-Arbelet were negociants … rather sharecroppers (metayage) for the (or any) Poisot-parcel … so the wines are always labelled as “domaine-bottled” …
Poisot are bottling themselves only since 2009 … so somebody must have worked the vines, harvested, vinified before … and I think these were Voarick and Follin-Arbelet.
VoaricK: I own a Magnum of 1979 RSV - and have tasted a 1989 in addition …
I also know several more vintages by Drouhin and Jadot in the nineties … and a lot more negociant-bottlings in general.
Thx for your comments … True they are not negociant wines in the traditional sense … but most likely metayage deals. Will change this in the article.
On some Follin-Arbelet labels the owner is mentioned as Propriete des heritiers de Pierre Poisot.
Poisot actually bottled a little even before 2009 … at least back to 2003 … but most likely each year. Tasted the 2011 and 2012 at the Domaine with Remi Poisot in March.
I really love this post , thank you . Very interesting data . Now , I saw this before on my nephew’s website ( Vinotopia ) in slightly different form , also Richebourg and St.Vivant with some differences from where you are now . I expect this is because it was a different time perspective from your last overview . Ownership tends to change quickly these days .
Now , an overview of the premier cru’s from Vosne Romanee would be really interesting too .
There are/were a surprsingly massive amount of RSV ‘producers’ or perhaps that should be labelers!
A long time ago I planned to open a 99 Romanée-Conti on my 50th birthday (which was last year) but didn’t get allocated one - so I thought I’d buy up all the 99 RSVs and have an even bigger dinner - stupid really as together they cost far more than 1 bottle of RC - at least back then!!
There are a few that I didn’t manage to find at the time (I haven’t bought one for over 10 years as I’m a provenance-aholic) , which are no-longer to be found (either physically, or in a ‘fiscally sustainable’ way), including:
Leroy
JJ Confuron
Albert Bichot
Aergeter
Vincent Girardin
Follin-Arbelet
Poisot (an assumption - I never saw it listed then, but do now…)
However, I have bottles of:
l’Arlot
Arnoux
Cathiard
Champy
Clavelier
DRC
Drouihn
Grivelet
Hudelot-Noellat
Jadot
Louis Latour
Moillard-Grivot
Parent
Potel
Rodet
Thomas-Moillard
So-far, I think there are 22-23 bottlings (labelings!) from that vintage - anybody spot one I’ve missed.
Actually, I’m not sure whether they will be quite ready for my 60th brthday
Still easy to find that one Don, but I typically baulk at the price or provenance - often both! Usually with good provenance means that the cases still lie in (UK) bond - so never left prof. storage - but that also means the sellers rarely split cases (6 or 12) and a couple of bottles is enough for me given the price premium that vintage attracts… still, I guess there are not many people with 40 bottles of RSV from that vintage