Hyper Decanting - Use a Blender to Aerate Wine!

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I'm not recommending this, but saw this article from Williams Sonoma and thought I'd share it for the chuckles and eye rolls: https://blog.williams-sonoma.com/hyper- ... e-blender/

I see they are using inexpensive reds, but I use my Vitamix for too many things that could leave their own scent to consider it.
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I thought this had to be an April Fool’s post, but it is dated March 26...
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#3 Post by Chuck Miller »

For about $11 you can buy a battery powered milk frother that can aerate a glass or a decanter in seconds.
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Chuck Miller wrote: April 3rd, 2021, 6:08 pm For about $11 you can buy a battery powered milk frother that can aerate a glass or a decanter in seconds.
Yes, but not from Williams-Sonoma. ;-)
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At an offline many years ago, after several bottles were consumed, my attention was drawn to a blender on the counter. Half a bottle in the blender, on high for about five seconds and... the wine was completely ruined. It’s been over a decade so I don’t remember exactly what it tasted like but it was pretty bad. It definitely made the wine worse.
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#6 Post by Marshall Manning »

Yeah, at a blind tasting many years ago one couple brought a wine that had been put into a blender per the recommendation of the winery owner. It finished last, by a considerable margin. I wasn't ever going to trust that winery owner again. Why do people even consider things like this. Just let the wine be and open up over time.
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Take a partial bottle, put the cork back in it, and shake the bottle.

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Paul Miller wrote: April 3rd, 2021, 7:58 pm Take a partial bottle, put the cork back in it, and shake the bottle.
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Wasn’t that the Mollydooker method?

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Will Clements wrote: April 4th, 2021, 3:37 pm Wasn’t that the Mollydooker method?
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#11 Post by Glen Gold »

They riff on this in the HBO show SUCCESSION. All of the characters on the show are monsters and one of them hyperdecants his wines.
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Paul Miller wrote: April 4th, 2021, 3:58 pm
Will Clements wrote: April 4th, 2021, 3:37 pm Wasn’t that the Mollydooker method?
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That’s it. The mollydooker method sounds like some sort of half assed birth control

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#13 Post by brigcampbell »

Hyperdecanting was originally from nathan myhrvold, the former CTO for microsoft.

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#14 Post by P. D e r d e y n »

I've seen this done with young pinot in a respected tasting room (not naming names). Shocking at first, but the methodology makes sense if the intent is to whip an incredible amount of air into wine as quickly as possible. I assume they had the blender expressly for this purpose and it wasn't also used to make smoothies for the employees or anything [cheers.gif]
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#15 Post by larry schaffer »

Or you can just show some patience . . .

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I'm just not going to put any of my wine in a blender. Not going to do it. Nope.
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#17 Post by Fred Scherrer »

TimF wrote: April 3rd, 2021, 6:18 pm At an offline many years ago, after several bottles were consumed, my attention was drawn to a blender on the counter. Half a bottle in the blender, on high for about five seconds and... the wine was completely ruined. It’s been over a decade so I don’t remember exactly what it tasted like but it was pretty bad. It definitely made the wine worse.
A friend suggested this with a young, tannic red we had opened at his house. With reservations about shearing forces on wine components, I suggested he only do a part of the bottle for a second or two. It was destroyed by the blender. Lesson learned.

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Paul McCourt wrote: April 5th, 2021, 9:58 am I'm just not going to put any of my wine in a blender. Not going to do it. Nope.
Why not? Any evidence that it doesn’t work? Why not try it?
This is not a novel technique, by the way. Modernist Cuisine described it 10 years ago. They say they actually did the science (A-B taste tests) that support it.

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#19 Post by Richard Albert »

This is so 1990s!!! Whats decades old is new ...
I heard about some Las Vegas Somms doing it and shortly afterward it came up in a discussion with a tasting room manager at Beringer.
Good luck, as it never caught on for some reason!
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Nate Simon wrote: April 5th, 2021, 12:10 pm
Paul McCourt wrote: April 5th, 2021, 9:58 am I'm just not going to put any of my wine in a blender. Not going to do it. Nope.
Why not? Any evidence that it doesn’t work? Why not try it?
This is not a novel technique, by the way. Modernist Cuisine described it 10 years ago. They say they actually did the science (A-B taste tests) that support it.
Yes, here https://modernistcuisine.com/tag/hyperdecanting/

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#21 Post by Nate Simon »

This has come up in previous threads as well, and the reaction is typically the same as seen here.
I would ask those who decant their wines routinely why they do it. Scientific reasons to do it are to introduce oxygen and to allow the dissipation of dissolved gases. Both of these are accomplished more quickly with the “hyper-decanting“ method. That’s all. You are just speeding up that for which you would otherwise wait around a long time.
But, no surprise to anyone here, we wine lovers tend to cling to our anachronisms. Just take a glance at other threads in which a shocking number of people adhere to the notion that sticking a chunk of a tree in the neck of a bottle is more technically sound than anything modern science can come up with.

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#22 Post by Richard Albert »

Hey, who is up for putting a Petrus, Screaming Eagle, or La Tache to the test?
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Richard Albert wrote: April 5th, 2021, 1:49 pm Hey, who is up for putting a Petrus, Screaming Eagle, or La Tache to the test?

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Richard Albert wrote: April 5th, 2021, 1:49 pm Hey, who is up for putting a Petrus, Screaming Eagle, or La Tache to the test?
I heard that the proper way to do this with Screaming Eagle is helicopter blades and then a final spin from the yacht propellers.
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#25 Post by J Cangiano »

Did you get this from succession?
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Nate Simon wrote: April 5th, 2021, 12:10 pm
Paul McCourt wrote: April 5th, 2021, 9:58 am I'm just not going to put any of my wine in a blender. Not going to do it. Nope.
Why not? Any evidence that it doesn’t work? Why not try it?
This is not a novel technique, by the way. Modernist Cuisine described it 10 years ago. They say they actually did the science (A-B taste tests) that support it.
Just because. Perhaps it is simple snobbery or perhaps old age refusal to change. Or perhaps it is a simple "fuuck that" thing. But I won't do it. I have enough bottles that give me enormous amounts of joy that I simply am not going to throw them in a blender looking to crank them up a notch. There isn't anything wrong about it at all, but for me - and I speak for me only - I don't want to go to this length to chase an improvement of wine I am already happy with.

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#27 Post by GregT »

The blender doesn't "decant" the wine. But before dismissing it, take a bottle, pour half in the blender and put the other half in a bowl of warm water as you do the blending. Blend the first one and then have someone pour them for you in two different glasses as soon as the bubbles subside. Taste side by side, not knowing which is which.

It makes little difference for many wines.
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#28 Post by dougwilder »

Don't knock it until you try it...
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#29 Post by Guillermo M »

Wouldn’t a blender have pretty much the same effect as bottle shock?
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#30 Post by JBrochu »

Guillermo M wrote: April 5th, 2021, 8:55 pm Wouldn’t a blender have pretty much the same effect as bottle shock?
That's why after you blend it you need to let it sit upright for a month.
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#31 Post by GregT »

JBrochu wrote: April 5th, 2021, 9:35 pm
Guillermo M wrote: April 5th, 2021, 8:55 pm Wouldn’t a blender have pretty much the same effect as bottle shock?
That's why after you blend it you need to let it sit upright for a month.
Bingo! [cheers.gif]

Of course, there's the whole idea of bottle shock . . .
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#32 Post by Jonathan Jaggers »

I'd never try this. I would think even if it does add oxygen, heat from the motor of the blender might not be a good component to add to the...erm, mix.

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#33 Post by dougwilder »

There are wines that are a lot stronger than some people give them credit for. Heat from the motor? Seriously?
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#34 Post by Scott Brunson »

Paul Miller wrote: April 4th, 2021, 3:58 pm
Will Clements wrote: April 4th, 2021, 3:37 pm Wasn’t that the Mollydooker method?
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#35 Post by TinahKing »

I’m game. I’ll give it a go with a bottle of cheap obnoxious plonk I wouldn’t otherwise drink. The vitamix could use the workout. If it doesn’t work, I’ll add sugar and mulling spices and call it glue wine.

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#36 Post by Nick F. »

I’ve used the milk frother before, it definitely doesn’t hurt the wine. Mixed opinions whether it helps.
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