Coravin demo

[Eric_LeVine]

@Arif F

@gwagner

Now we just need to figure out how we’re going to manage volume left in the bottle in Cellar Tracker.

Exactly.

People keep asking this. It is easy. You can add/edit the per-bottle note. We have had this feature for about 8 years.

[Eric_LeVine]

@Rick.T

@gwagner

Now we just need to figure out how we’re going to manage volume left in the bottle in Cellar Tracker.

Hopefully they will add a Corvain drop down box or equivalent with % of bottle remaining and corresponding percentages to what volume is left in the bottle.

I’m excited about this, placed my order tonight. Can’t wait to take it on a test drive!

Please use the per-bottle note. There are a quarter of a million people registered on CellarTracker. When there are many thousands of Coravin systems in use by CT users, then I can add specialized features. Meanwhile please use the feature that already exists.

[M_A_T_T_H_A_R_T_L_E_Y]

@Scot Hasselman

Assuming this thing works as advertised, a couple of things. I would argue that this could facilitate more sharing/exploration for friends. You could offer anything in your cellar to a visitor. “What do you want to try?”

You could do a vertical of many years with just a few guests.

You could also preview wines before a dinner party. Nothing more disappointing than having a big dinner party and opening something that turns out to be a dud, or worse, too young (“I shouldn’t have opened that.”).

I can also see using it on a Tuesday night when my SO is out-of-town/drinking iced tea/etc. You want some wine. Do you open a “daily drinker” knowing that it is likely that you will stick half the bottle into the fridge? Instead, you can open a better bottle. Also, I will admit to sometimes overindulging in order to finish an open bottle. This thing saves lives!

I am picking up what you are putting down…I guess I’ll just wait and see what people say. If the capsules actually get you 16 pours maybe it is worth it.

I’m just not sold yet.

[ToddFrench]

@M A T T H A R T L E Y

@Scot Hasselman

Assuming this thing works as advertised, a couple of things. I would argue that this could facilitate more sharing/exploration for friends. You could offer anything in your cellar to a visitor. “What do you want to try?”

You could do a vertical of many years with just a few guests.

You could also preview wines before a dinner party. Nothing more disappointing than having a big dinner party and opening something that turns out to be a dud, or worse, too young (“I shouldn’t have opened that.”).

I can also see using it on a Tuesday night when my SO is out-of-town/drinking iced tea/etc. You want some wine. Do you open a “daily drinker” knowing that it is likely that you will stick half the bottle into the fridge? Instead, you can open a better bottle. Also, I will admit to sometimes overindulging in order to finish an open bottle. This thing saves lives!

I am picking up what you are putting down…I guess I’ll just wait and see what people say. If the capsules actually get you 16 pours maybe it is worth it.

I’m just not sold yet.

I will be watching WB for the reviews, to be sure, before buying. Sounds incredibly interesting - almost as exciting as Latour buying Chateau Montelena.

[ky1em1ttskus]

Todd: let’s get a berserker day deal!

[TomHill]

@Charlie Fu

Tom. What scientific evidence?

Well, Charlie…I’m a LosAlamos guy…we just make up stuff, and then call it “scientific evidence” !!!

I have a friend who plans to buy one. I plan to borrow it & do the test. Buy two btls of the same wine. Coravin one down to half full.
Store them together for 6 months or so. Then open the fresh btl & pour a glass, alongside a fresh glass from the Coravin’d btl.
Taste them side by side, blind. Repeatedly. Chose which one I prefer on each trial…or decide that I can’t tell the difference between
the two glasses. Do the statistics on my trials to lend a bit of “scientific credibility”. If the statistics indicate that I can’t tell the
difference between the two glasses…then Coravin wins and the tool is effective in what it claims to do. If I can tell a difference on the 99%
confidence level, then Coravin loses. If, on the 99% confidence level, I prefer the Coravin’d sample, Coravin wins. If I significantly prefer
the non-Coravin’d sample, than Coravin loses.
That’s the evidence I’d like to see. I don’t think that experiment has been done. I’d rather do that experiment than rely on the
anecdotal evidence put forth by Parker…incredible though his memory and infallible palate may be.
Of course, those folks who already “know” that Coravin works based on anecdotal evidence will reject this “scientific evidence”
because all wines display btl variation…which is the obvious explanation of any differences my “science evidence” might reveal.
Tom

[Tom_G_l_a_s_g_o_w]

@TomHill

@Charlie Fu

Tom. What scientific evidence?

Well, Charlie…I’m a LosAlamos guy…we just make up stuff, and then call it “scientific evidence” !!!

I have a friend who plans to buy one. I plan to borrow it & do the test. Buy two btls of the same wine. Coravin one down to half full.
Store them together for 6 months or so. Then open the fresh btl & pour a glass, alongside a fresh glass from the Coravin’d btl.
Taste them side by side, blind. Repeatedly. Chose which one I prefer on each trial…or decide that I can’t tell the difference between
the two glasses. Do the statistics on my trials to lend a bit of “scientific credibility”. If the statistics indicate that I can’t tell the
difference between the two glasses…then Coravin wins and the tool is effective in what it claims to do. If I can tell a difference on the 99%
confidence level, then Coravin loses. If, on the 99% confidence level, I prefer the Coravin’d sample, Coravin wins. If I significantly prefer
the non-Coravin’d sample, than Coravin loses.
That’s the evidence I’d like to see. I don’t think that experiment has been done. I’d rather do that experiment than rely on the
anecdotal evidence put forth by Parker…incredible though his memory and infallible palate may be.
Of course, those folks who already “know” that Coravin works based on anecdotal evidence will reject this “scientific evidence”
because all wines display btl variation…which is the obvious explanation of any differences my “science evidence” might reveal.
Tom

A two bottle sample, that’s quite a large study. How will you control for bottle variation?

[CFu]

He did quote scientific

[Tim_Thomas]

@scott c l a f f e e

No guarantees, but if you buy it before 8/1, there’s a code that gets you 3 free capsules.

What’s the code?

[Larry_Link]

@Tim Thomas

@scott c l a f f e e

No guarantees, but if you buy it before 8/1, there’s a code that gets you 3 free capsules.

What’s the code?

Yes please PM me the code if you are not comfortable posting it. Thanks.

Larry

[Keith_Levenberg]

I totally get how impactful this thing would be if it works, but it doesn’t really accomplish anything that couldn’t be accomplished by wineries releasing a bunch of little 50ml airplane-size bottles, right?

[ToddFrench]

@Keith Levenberg

I totally get how impactful this thing would be if it works, but it doesn’t really accomplish anything that couldn’t be accomplished by wineries releasing a bunch of little 50ml airplane-size bottles, right?

Excellent point.

Winds of change, baby. Winds of change…

[J_Galang]

Just looking at how this works, would you not get a really small amount of oxygen that is “in” the needle already before you puncture the cork? I know it maybe very small, but oxygen will creep into the needle/system all the way to where the argon gas seal is right? Or am I splitting hairs here? Also the problem of sediment comes to mind.

[J_Galang]

@Larry Link

@Tim Thomas

@scott c l a f f e e

No guarantees, but if you buy it before 8/1, there’s a code that gets you 3 free capsules.

What’s the code?

Yes please PM me the code if you are not comfortable posting it. Thanks.

Larry

Would love to get a PM of the code as well. TIA.

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[gene_keenan]

Press Club here in SF is using Coravin (they were selected to be a tester). Works amazing. Fantastic selection of wines too.

[Gary_S]

I haven’t seen this discussed here, but it sounds interesting. Thoughts from the board?

Compare Coravin Wine Preservation Systems

Not sure how I missed the earlier thread, sorry for the spam…

Gary

[Eric_Guido]

@Jay Miller

Please let us know how it works. I’ll be waiting for feedback before taking the plunge.

But given how often I have wine leftover from a bottle it sounds like a potentially useful purchase.

What is the approximate cost in canisters/bottle?

The unit is $299 and the canisters are about $10 a piece with 12 - 14 uses per canister. This is the one thing that can become an issue. There are plenty of dinners and tastings where I would use multiple canisters. I asked about larger capacity, they are working on it. However, I can see myself spending a lot of money on canisters. Also, the canister is a proprietary product of Coravin.

A paradigm shift in wine preservation?

[Gary_S]

oops, I guess it has been discussed…thanks!

[TomHill]

@Tom G l a s g o w

A two bottle sample, that’s quite a large study. How will you control for bottle variation?

Well, Tom… this is just pseudo-Science, not real Science. No way you can control btl variation…which is
why I said that folks who already “know” that Coravin works would reject the results of my study unless it confirmed
what they “know”…that Coravin does work.
If you, Tom (or anybody), would like to fund a 6-btl each study of 24 different wines, I’d be glad to do the experiment.
But I doubt it’ll ever happen. I suspect all we’ll ever have is anecdotal evidence. And if it’s Parker’s anecdotes, that’s good
enough for most folks.
Tom

[ToddFrench]

Good news, folks, the Coravin team is registering (had to amend one registration for the violation of real names policy this morning) so that they can answer questions directly in this thread. Hopefully it still opens the door for a BerserkerDay (or non-BerserkerDay) group buy!