managed to pick up some of the Musar Rose I’d been meaning to for a while.
This summer we’ve only had a couple. The past two summers we went all in and, in my house, it looks like rose has jumped the shark.
So here’s an interesting followup for everyone. The La Negly Rosé has now pretty much sold of Toronto and the reason it has sold out is has nothing to do with the wine itself. A product consultant told me people have been outright buying it for the exact same reason I have – they want to keep the sleek beautiful Vinolok bottle to store leftover wine in their fridge. I actually opened a bottle for our photo club wine group. Not bad for Rosé though I did feel some manliness slip away from me with every sip.
Never let it be said the LCBO doesn’t learn anything. They have now brought in the Gerard Bertrand Cote des Roses Rosé. While the bottle is more bottom tapered and heavy and arguably a touch more “masculine” in shape and less sci-fi sleek than the La Negly bottle, it’s still one very beautiful clear Vinolok bottle that’s perfect for storing leftover wine. I expect this wine to sell just as well for the same reason plus the very affordable $17.95 CDN price. I just bought a couple to go with my pair of Neglys solely for the bottles.
I agree with this…I used to like the darker rose’s because I felt they were more complex…now I can’t stand them and am looking for the palest rose possible. We go through many cases of Triennes Rose every year. There is a switch that flips for us. Late April/Early May we stop drinking Red and start drinking Rose/White only. Then October rolls around and the switch flips and we start drinking Red/White only and Rose gets pushed aside until the following year.
Mike,
I think I posted this above, but I heard someone say recently that Grenache and Pinot roses are perfect for Spring and Summer; when Fall rolls around, it’s time for Mourvedre Roses . . .
Cheers!
Bardolino Chiaretto
Agreed - F and P
Those, along with Lopez de Heredia are my favorites though as a “serious” drink rather than a casual summer wine. There are plenty of pleasant lighter styled roses which I enjoy but don’t find myself buying much of - primarily because my interest/enjoyment in drinking wine declines dramatically in hot and humid weather.
But there’s also a nice range of good to very good roses that fall in the middle range for me. Tempier, Pradeaux, and Baudry come to mind. And I’m sure there are many, many which I just haven’t tried.
Sparkling rose wines are another thing entirely. Plenty of magnificent examples there.
What’s the standard tariff on the Cotat? Looking at wine-searcher it seems to be up there, if not more expensive, than Tempier . . .
Cheers.
But also IMO better than Tempier. At least with 10+ years of age.
Don’t know why folks can’t drink red wine in hot weather. It ups the ante a little and shows a person what they are made of. Rose is for those who lost the battle for summer.
If you had to name 1 rose to win a battle of all roses as a legitimate fine wine, what would it be? I’ve always considered rose to be a master of none. I don’t find it near the complexity or quality of many good red wines, and if it’s hot, I’m happy to drink an excellent white or champagne.
What’s the appeal? What is the wine you’d chase because it, standing alone, is something special?
to Tran,
As many of us in the trade have been saying, Rose is now a fashion statement as well as a wine.
to all,
The key words in the above are as well as. Yes, Rose is a wine. Yes, it can be great wine. Yes, it can fill both a very broad need as well as a very specific niche.
[commercial post: Rose is 40% of my business, which pays for me to have a house, electric service, a computer and an ISP, all of which combined allow me to post on this board ]
As other have mentioned, Rose allows the consumer to combine the piquancy, intensity of flavor and transparency of white wines with red fruits. Sure, you can torture a red into service with gazpacho or grilled freshwater trout on a 95 degree (35 Celsius) day by chilling it until it loses red character. Sure, you can drink a white with those foods and lose all harmony between food and wine.
IMO both are stoopid solutions, when the right answer, Rose is right there in front of you.
As to the greatest Roses, I have two that I greatly favor but sell, so can’t post on. So try an Ott or a Tempier at 2 - 5 years of age.
For those worried about manliness who want to be truly bewildered, I suggest a visit to the Common Ground Fair in Unity, Maine (late September). You might meet a bearded young guy driving a pick-up truck with guns in the racks who drinks Rose, does not eat meat for spiritual reasons, but hunts shoots, dresses and freezes a deer every year for his wife and children.
Tran, it’s almost Canadian!
Dan Kravitz
Way up but I tend to only drink Rose of Pinot. Love Paul Latos but at $40 it’s certainly on the pricier end for Rose.
FWIW, I did see the Bertrand Rose at costco and bought a bottle- $12. Re-confirmed by stereotype that most wines in gimmicky bottles are not worth the effort. Cool Rose on bottom of bottle, but Rose that could have been any mediocre white wine- No rose character, nothing interesting
What are some of the better more easily found roses?
what is rosé character?
There are a lot mentioned in this thread! A board favorite that is readily available is the Triennes.
Gee I don’t know. Drinking an awesome rose in the middle of summer sure feels like winning to me.
to Steve Crawford:
In a nutshell, Rose character is the texture of light, fresh white wine combined with aromas and flavors of red fruits.
Dan Kravitz
+1
(… but there are so many different opinions …)