X in Soil = X in Grapes, Yes or No?

[Neal.Mollen]

Another one from the archives. Cargasacchi, Brian Loring, Bob Wood, and Jeff from Rhys, too. Funny, a thread like this one now might go 4-6 pages, but back in the day, we didn’t even fill the page.

We have to find you a new hobby to keep you occupied

[T_Melloni]

Another one from the archives. Cargasacchi, Brian Loring, Bob Wood, and Jeff from Rhys, too. Funny, a thread like this one now might go 4-6 pages, but back in the day, we didn’t even fill the page.

We have to find you a new hobby to keep you occupied

Hey - did you see that great new offer on grower Champagne?!?!?

[Anton_D]

I am convinced that soil microbiome has something significant to do with it. But even here, it’s not so simple as X in Soil, X in Grapes. This was recently published Vineyard under-vine floor management alters soil microbial composition, while the fruit microbiome shows no corresponding shifts | Scientific Reports

I think that is certainly a part of it. The rhizospehere is fascinating.

[Eric_Ifune]

You do not taste shale in wine grown on shale. You taste the compounds the vine has synthesized when it is grown on shale. Why is this so difficult to understand?

[John_Morris]

My wife had an uncle in Wisconsin who could tell which orchards the same variety of apples came from.

There are cantaloupe growers who can tell if a cantaloupe is from Nor Cal, Chile, or Fallon.

Lots of people claim to be able to identify a coffee bean’s point of origin by tasting a coffee drink.

So, there’s gotta be something to this.

But to say soil influences the fruit is not the same as saying the minerals of the soil can be tasted in the fruit.

[Anton_D]

My wife had an uncle in Wisconsin who could tell which orchards the same variety of apples came from.

There are cantaloupe growers who can tell if a cantaloupe is from Nor Cal, Chile, or Fallon.

Lots of people claim to be able to identify a coffee bean’s point of origin by tasting a coffee drink.

So, there’s gotta be something to this.

But to say soil influences the fruit is not the same as saying the minerals of the soil can be tasted in the fruit.

Yes.

I was just pondering the whole terroir thing.

It’s one of the most interesting aspects of the hobby, to me.

[Tran_Bronstein]

A Niagara winemaker made very clear to me that you need good healthy soil to make good wine, but that doesn’t mean that what is in the soil literally goes into the wine itself. Some minute trades of minerals do get in there, I was told, but we’re not talking bottled mineral water levels which I underdtand are actually artificially elevated with added mineral salts.