Wouldn't it be cool if Cellartracker.....

Had a list of the most viewed TN’s in the last 24 hrs,month, year? Think of it as a kind of what’s hot on CT. This would pop up on your homepage when you logged in. Thoughts?

Hmm, interesting. I do keep a count of views (really renders) but not date based. I could always snapshot it monthly and then use the deltas for reports.

Oh boy…there are so many cool things CT can do w/ its data.

For instance – there seems to be a lot of guesswork around maturity profile of a wine. CT should be able to shed a lot of light on this subject, by being able to track average ratings over time (of course, this works best for wines that are relatively expensive, relatively popular, and are expected to age at least 5-10 years).

For example, if the average score of a wine changes by more than ~4 points over a given timeframe (e.g., 4-6 months) CT could alert/show that this bottle in your collection has recently seen a meaningful shift, to signify the impact that age is having on the wine (of course, the difference may not be entirely attributable to age, but it should be a substantial factor, especially if the number of reviews responsible for the shift >40). ‘Wow – my 2002 PLL has risen from a 90 to a 94 in the last 6 months…looks like it might be time to pop one’

You could also imagine this on a more macro level – take all reviews for 1996 FGs, and plot them as a time series to show vintage evolution. Grooovy.

I dunno…just seems like a paradise of data.

But Chris, that would only work if people are scoring wines based on how they’re drinking at the moment of consumption, and that no points are awarded for future potential. Some people certainly score this way, but enough to offset the people who write: “Amazing power and structure and showing great things are ahead. 97pts.” Just the number is not going to help yield a data set that tracks smoothly with the wine’s evolution.

This is a fair point – and some people give ranges, some people don’t use scores, etc. But I think the noise will balance itself out to a large extent if you are working with a large enough sample size.

I think that for popular (1-3 classe Bdx, most ‘brand name’ CNDP, and well-known Cali wines) it would generally work quite well.

Maturity will never be an exact science, but it seems to make sense to track the evolution, given that the data is available, and that a moving average forumla is a pretty easy thing to bake.

Nice thoughts Chris. I would agree. When I’m considering popping a age sensitive bottle CT is a huge tool in my decision making process.

There are LOTS of cool things I want to do and plan to do once there is enough data. When thinking about algorithms and things to display though it is also easy to design things that will produce pure garbage. So I tend to be a little cautious. We are getting there though. It looks like the site will generate about 410,000 reviews this year, and we are at 1.12 million reviews. Fun!

It would be very cool to have a visual representation (i.e. bar graph) of the distribution of scores for each wine.

I don’t know why, but I love that wine coffin!

Maybe because it’s just your size?


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Just the right size for my… neener (its wine talk…I had to stop myself) (and any thread drift making fun of me will promptly be deleted! [tease.gif] )

How about have CT allow people to give two types of scores to a wine, one for how a wine is now, and one as a prediction for where the taster THINKS the wine will max out at sometime within the drinking window (which would also be a required field in combination with the second score)?

Then in 15 years we will be able to see who predicted with the greatest accuracy, and hail them as the next RMP/Meadows. :slight_smile:

Brilliant. I think if we work at this a little bit, we might be able to add some more kinds of scores that would eliminate the need for anyone to write (or read) tasting notes anymore. Totally quantified wine. And we if we identify a new master taster who independently predicts the collective quantification, we can also stop tasting bottles for ourselves and just buy, cellar, and drink on that person’s say, thereby obviating the value of all tasting notes from other sources.
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Congrats and thanks, Eric. Really incredible achievement and absolutely indispensible tool.

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Thank you so much guys!

I just coded up a little popup that shows the mean, median, standard deviation and a breakdown of scores from < 80, 80-84, 85-89, 90-94, and 95-100. Plus it shows the total count of notes, total count of ratings, and count of distinct people who rated. For the moment is is just textual, but the designer will have a field day coming up with a graphical representation. Anyway, thanks for the nudge, this was on my to-do list, and this thread bumped it to the top of my pile this afternoon. I will forward you an email showing a little snippet screenshot.

Awesome addition!!!

Hey Kemp, since we were emailing already today I just forwarded you the screenshoot too!

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