WineSpies.com (Wine Spies) Deal Discussion thread

I cannot figure out today’s mystery. I researched all of the Bevan wineries that I know of, and can’t come up with an exact match. The Diamond Mountain vineyard is throwing me off, and a lot of the wineries where he makes wine have purge tech sheets from 2016.

I’ve searched Bevan Cellars, PerUs and Institution. Adversity Cellars did not start until 2020, and he did not start making wine at Elyse until 2018.

Anyone?

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Lerner Project? They have Diamond Mountain vineyard in the portfolio along with using Tench and Sugarloaf. Bevan I think has a stake in it.

Edit to Add: I’m thinking it’s Lerner RMS. Blend seams to line up, but can’t find any info on vineyard sources.

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I think you’re right. The quote from the owner to Bevan in the WS writeup is on the Lerner homepage. The Vinous review contains the “depth power structure” quote. It got a 96 from JD. It has15.6% alcohol. The only difference is the blend percentage. The WA review has it as 34% cab and 33% each of Merlot and cab franc.

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Yeah, it’s the proprietary red blend, not the RMS which is 1/3rd of each. But Lerner…definitely.

Yeap, you guys dialed it in: https://www.jjbuckley.com/wine/2016-lerner-project-rms-napa-cabernet-sauvignon/2016-991030-750/?srsltid=AfmBOorXG4Z6Y03KX6-YmR6o3zbYjYX9caTQST08OIISFjcKf3AKSIOH&utm_source=chatgpt.com

2014 Miner The Oracle for $45 today. Seems like a good deal.

A month or 2 ago Reverse Wine Snob had the '19 for $56 + shipping so this does seem like a good deal. I bought 2 of the '19 and just got 1 2014 from WS.

Any idea as to how much life the 2014 Oracle has ahead of it?

Haha, this summer, Wine Text had the 2018 Oracle for $29 each, but you had to buy a case. Easy case buy. My guess is 2014 has plenty of life left.

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According to the WE vintage chart, a 2014 cab of Oracle quality has a peak drinking window of 2027-2031.

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Kelley Fox up again today.

With a few years on its side, the Kelley Fox sounds like it will be an exceptional wine. The price is marginally over 50% of what B-21 is asking for the same bottle. Excellent deal.

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I did get 4 bottles of the Kelley Fox Pinot in the past offering. I opened one to have a point of reference… I had to open a second one because I thought the first was flawed. After trying 2 I honestly don’t know if the wine is flawed or is just not that great to be honest. I wonder if the wine is not great or if it has been poorly handled

The 1 bottle ive opened was good

It’s some of the best American pinot I’ve had so it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s either a taste preference issue or a flawed bottle.

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Agree on the taste issue, its not quite my style though I see it becoming my style as the structure breaks down a bit

I lean towards a flawed bottle. In theory, it is definitely in the spectrum of wines I like most, I like well balanced tater wines typically. But these 2 I opened were not quite there. Other vintages were significantly better that’s why I wonder about wine handling and why these bottles are at such great price

By the way the prior offering was the Webber Vinyard I believe, not the Maresh Vinyard.

Were they heat damaged? Oxidized?

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I would assume temperature/light exposure.

If I had seen any seepage in the cork or if the wine color had been off, I would have noted that down . I would probably discard oxidation.