In the old days there was a saying, “Beware the 11 bottle case”
With changing palates and styles not so sure it’s as much of a danger sign as it used to be. People are just as likely to be blindsided by, for example, the oaky ,mess that l’Evangile has become. Which I suppose is just as much a danger of you don’t like that in a wine.
No great ones that I know of, and that’s why absence of a pushed cork or external signs of leakage are not a guarantee. All I can say is that in my experience duds have been infrequent.
On old bottles, excess ullage is a clue. If my 30 year old bottles are still in the neck, a mid-shoulder fill is worrisome and I’ll pass. Then again, I’ve seen mid- and low-shoulder bottles that seemed fine. So maybe I’m missing out on some bargains. Or maybe that’s why my dud rate is low.
I’d say it’s a yellow flag for me. Unfortunately, there’s no way to know if it came from Florida, where it’s hot and there are no basements, or from your great state of Minnesota.
I’m mostly bidding on Bordeaux from the '80s and '90s, so if fill levels are good and there are no signs of past leakage, I’ll bid. If it’s Champagne, which is more fragile, I’d pass.
I wouldn’t argue the point with someone who said they’d pass on any passively stored lot.
Current/recent release may mitigate some of that risk.
I remember one bottle I purchased checked all of the boxes (recent release, professional storage, fill well into the neck, label and capsule looked clean) and it seemed brett affected, reminding me that it’s always a crap shoot. Luckily, it was a test bottle for me & passed on bidding for the rest.
Another night of aggressive bidding and sniping at WineBid. I lost out on everything despite multiple follow-up bids in overtime. If the wine market is down, you can’t tell on that site.
As far as I can tell, if you lose an auction, then after the close, you can’t see any information at all, right?
What you bid on, what other bids happened when, what it sold for? It’s like the whole exercise is just scrubbed away.
Kind of weird. I am more often relieved than bummed when I lose an auction, but it’s a weird feeling having it all disappear from the he record. I’d also kind of like to learn a bit from the experience.
Unless the info is there and I’m not looking the right place?
Click BIDS. There’s a scroll down option where it says “current items”. From there you can go to a specific previous auction and see all the lots you bid on or tracked.