I’m sure this is true, and might even be the dominant pattern on the board, but I suspect there are a wide variety of patterns represented on the board.
Very much recommend this documentary.
An entire bottled would wreck me. Haven’t had more than three glasses in a day in maybe 10 years. Have never put away a full bottle in one sitting and probably never more than a couple times over the course of a day.
I have no issue admitting I have an addictive personality. In my youth I drank pretty heavily. Beer and some hard stuff. It was not healthy in many ways. I have seen family and friends destroy themselves and others with alcohol. It’s very ugly. Because of all that, I am afraid of it and learned to keep a hard cap on consumption otherwise I would have to give it up. As I mentioned above, I like the relaxation that two glasses brings. It’s enough. I don’t feel any setback from it and I am happy with that.
I was in the business for about 15 years. I saw plenty of people who could handle their booze but, boy, it’s not healthy. I don’t mean the occasional excessive night, but the constant drinking of a lot. It gets to be normal for many. IMO it just makes life difficult.
All I know is that wine never gives me a hangover even when I go hard, but everything else does. Hard liquor mixed into sugary cocktails being the worst. Never gotten drunk on sake, but would imagine it would be very similar to wine and no hangover. I’ll report back!
Consider yourself lucky. I took part of a tasting a while back which got badly out of hand. After consuming about 4 bottles of wine, it took me 2 days to recover.
+1
Hmm…I find that with tequila. Very few hangovers with too much good tequila.
I would edit to “nothing NEW to say”
In my 20+ years on wine forums alcohol has been discussed ad nauseam. Everything from gee willikers I would drink more if non alcohol, to the bit of buzz is de facto part of the enjoyment to wine cellars are the classy way of a drunk protecting their supply. All are correct depending on pov.
Personally I feel alcohol is an indelible aspect of wine- and judging from even the newest forms of n/a beer, removing the alcohol will change it enough to not be the same quality (not even factoring aging or other factors) that it isn’t even worth an argument (for me).
Every person needs to decide for themselves how the alcohol factor fits in for them and decide how/whether this is the right hobby/lifestyle for themselves
This is spot on - everyone here is a proud moderate yet there are so many posts that goes like ‘Gary and Mike came over yesterday on a wim, so we had these 9 bottles of unobtainium-grade wine between us and of course the Krug at the start was a mag’…
I’m a proud excess. 2 bottles a night is normal.
Long term health impacts occur from any level of alcohol consumption. It is poison. Delicious poison but poison nonetheless
What volume of wine are we talking about you consuming without getting a “buzz”?
Also, damn, you people who “don’t get hangovers” from certain types of booze? I’m jealous. I’m also somewhere between completely disbelieving and deeply skeptical, but if true, then very jealous. I’ve never had any form of alcohol that, with excessive consumption, does not result in a hangover. Red wine is among the very worst for me. I think the long aging in oak means more histamines and a worse reaction in addition to the alcohol. I’ve experimented with claritin before big tastings but am not sure if it’s really that beneficial or if it’s placebo or what, and maybe it affects my palate a bit.
On the tequila v rum v scotch v gin v vodka…all should give you a hangover. The active ingredient is the same…it’s alcohol, and your liver is getting the business.
Re sugary cocktails, I thought there was decent evidence that the sugar content was not a material contributor to a more severe hangover, but was likely to contribute to excessive drinking because the sugar masks the alcohol content better, resulting in worse perceived hangovers, but not on an ABV basis. Which is why anecdotally, people associate awful hangovers from sugary cocktails with the sugar. I only had ____ cocktails…how can I feel this bad? Well they were strong as all hell, you just couldn’t tell.
If I open a bottle of still wine it’s usually limited to 2 or 3 glasses. But I’ve been known to enjoy a bottle of Champagne over the course of an evening with no effects whatsoever.
Absolutely they should. It’s only right
The women who run Commander’s Palace have a rule about not mixing the grain with the grape. But I’m pretty sure that it’s not enforced at the restaurant.
A bottle of champagne is about 6 coors lights and a few big sips of a 7th. I’m 6’3, 200lbs, am fond of alcohol, was in a fraternity in college and was semi-pro at pounding beers. I actually do get lit every now and then at fun wine dinners with buddies, the occasional Halloween or New Years or Christmas party. I drink scotch and gin and wine and beer with some regularity.
If I polished off a full bottle of champagne or 6-7 beers (even coors lights) in an evening, I’d def have a decent buzz going. Certainly enough so that I’d never consider driving though would def mess around with fireworks.
I think the whole “I never drink more than a very moderate amount” and “I can drink a bottle of wine and feel absolutely nothing” suggests you’ve got to be about 6’10, 450 lbs, monster metabolism, oversized liver, or totally full of shit.
I see you’ve “met” Monie . . . .
I generally agree with you here. Perhaps it’s making a distinction between feeling drunk and feeling a relaxed warm glow?
Come on people, there’s help.