Which Washington wine are you drinking?

A few random thoughts and highlights from a recent Walla Walla visit during spring release weekend, in no particular order:

-Rose. It seems like everyone is doing a rose now. While nothing blew me away as a must have, what got my attention is how high the average quality is. A genre well worth trying as the odds are you’ll find very pleasing summer sippers for the warm weather.

-My first time sampling Canvasback and I’m impressed. We got to have a great conversation with Brian Rudin about his winemaking and I learned a great deal. He was very generous with his time and shared really interesting stuff about his approaches. Regarding the juice in the glass, they were all really impressive, with an advantage to the cab/bordeaux blends but the rhone varieties, particularly syrah, were excellent as well. He seems to be really focused on Red Mountain and I think he’s getting the most out of the grapes/terroir and producing the most interesting wines I’ve had from Red Mountain both from Bordeaux varieties and syrah.

-Holocene. The wines at Force Majeure were all terrific without exception. But what got our attention, and brought everyone at our table to a reverent silence after the first swirl and sip, were two Holocene 2021 pinots, the Apocrypha and Memorialis. We bought as much as we could haul back which of course wasn’t enough.

-Gramercy. As usual I loved tasting through as the floor is pretty high and the highs are outstanding but the eye opener was a 2021 viognier ordered at a restaurant. I think the best Washington viognier I’ve had.

-Valdemar. My first visit there. I especially liked the 2020 Blue Mountain vineyard syrah and the 2017 La Gargantilla garnacha (yes, that one’s from Spain). I rarely get excited about chardonnay but I found the 2020 French Creek chard bold and full or character.

-Rotie. The 2021 Southern Blend is the best I’ve yet had of the cuvee and the 2020 rocks 470 syrah was a riot erupting from the glass.

-Reynvaan had a stunning line up and was my favorite set of wines from the trip.

-I seemed to prefer the 2019 syrahs to the 2018s. I heard 2018 was the perfect vintage weather-wise but based on my limited sampling I found the 2019s a little more interesting while the 2018s are all well made but buttoned down. I would need to do more tastings however to make any general conclusions regarding the vintages.

Things I didn’t like:

-Wineries that don’t pour the wines that are the reason you think they’re any good. It’s a release weekend, you’ve made reservations, and you’re going to pay whatever tariff they charge, but when you show up the only wines that get poured are their base line up. I mean they make more than half a dozen really good cuvees but you would never know that after tasting there. I was embarrassed recommending two places to a friend and bringing him and being disappointed by what they poured. I won’t be naming them but your know who you are.

-Tiny pours. I was really surprised how small the pours were at a number of places. When tasting I spit 80%-90% of what I taste during the day but I’d still like to have 2 oz pour as I don’t think 1 oz is enough to adequately assess the wine even if spitting.

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Really great recap, Steve.

Yeah, rose is everywhere and I’m glad you found the overall quality to be high. From a pure business perspective, a rose makes a ton of sense I’d imagine. First, they generally require zero oak (money saved). Second, the fruit is often picked earlier (and thereby farmed for less time…money saver). Two Mountain winery releases some of their rose in coke bottle-style bottles with a bottle cap closure. Pretty fun stuff! The wine, at least the 2022 release, wasn’t great, but a fun idea.

I am 100% with you on 1 oz. pours…way, way too chincy and nearly impossible to assess adequately.

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From Dad’s cellar, a fun treat from a winery we went to long ago: 2002 Stevens ‘Big Easy.’ Happily, the wine was far from dead and showed a lot of mature WA Cabernet fruit. Good stuff, and cool to see an autographed bottle at age 21ish.


Rose is made for one reason outside of wanting to make Rose, cash flow.

I do agree the average Rose in WA is better than the average Rose in CA, albeit perhaps a bit behind OR but I have a preference for Pinot Rose.

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I prefer Mourvedre or Grenache Rose, but Pinot Rose isn’t bad. Out of WA, I love the Nebbiolo Rose from Upsidedown Wines.

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My preference is Mourvedre too, and Bandol, but WA/OR focus more on Pinot, Cab, Merlot, and Syrah for Rose with smaller amounts of other red grapes. My preference was only in reference to what is generally available from PNW wineries.

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The only WA roses I seem to like are from grapes grown and crushed FOR rose. All the crap saignee roses are a cheap money grab and not very good.

What are some of the ones you like?

I think there’s been some good Washington rose made from cab franc. I like the herbal nuances you can get to go along with the fruit.

The only domestic rose I seek out is the Bedrock Ode to Lulu, which is course is from California not Washington. I love its slightly saline/mouthwatering character.

we agree on lulu. I tend to like gramercy but that is on the verge of too fruity some years, cayuse, Devison -though flirts the opposite end of the spectrum from gramercy.

The other factor is price of course. This keeps me from even bothering when there are handfuls of cheaper and better european options

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We go thru a bunch of Charles ans Charles Rose for $10, Bieler and Brennan do a good job with it and I have liked Bieler’s Provence Rose too.

Fave is still La Bastide Blanche, but no one will be replicating that in WA.

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1985 Chinook Wines Merlot Red - USA, Washington, Columbia Valley, Yakima Valley (4/29/2023)
13% abv. From a recent auction "mystery pack" of well-stored Herb Farm collection wines.
Cork was in remarkably good shape, barely stained 1/5th up and came out in one piece with a waiter's corkscrew! In any case, I had assumed that this would be completely shot and undrinkable, but was surprised to find that this was actually in decent shape! Yes, of course, way over the hill and, I guess, was probably never a "good" bottle of Merlot, but this was actually drinkable and (marginally) enjoyable, at least in an intellectual sense. What's left here is a lot of graphite notes and strong acidity and maybe a touch of forest floor. A little orange citrus note as well, I think. It's a little flat and monolithic but glad for the opportunity to taste this 37+ year old modest wine.

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Upsidedown is an absolute under the radar flyer. Really, really good wines.

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Add me as another fan of what Seth is doing at Upsidedown Wines. Their new tasting room in Cle Elum is a nice stopping spot on the weekends when traveling over the mountains too.

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I like Renegade Wine Co. rose as a very inexpensive wine that scratches that rose itch. I have a very, very difficult time putting much more than $15 toward a bottle of rose. It has something to do with the fact that they’re typically quaffed, typically out of poor glasses, and that’s exactly what I love about them.

With that said, Seven Hills Winery sells an excellent rose, but it’s a little beyond what I want to pay these days.

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You can find it at Costco most years for $12. 7Hills is a great callout for value.

Didn’t realize it was that inexpensive still. I need to get some!

Full retail is something like $16.99-$18.99.

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I picked up 4 bottles of Treveri Rose @ $12/bottle Union Gap Costco.

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Chris and Kris, have either you yet tried any of the sparklers from Tiriddis? I had two last week (their Brut Rose and the Blanc de Blanc) and thought they were quite good. The rose was VERY dry and almost needed a touch more fruit, but I still really liked it. They’re well-priced, too.

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Have not. Upthread pretty sure I sorted out these are made at Zirkle that does a ton of PL wines so its not like they are laying them down and riddling them like Treveri.

It would be nice for them to be a bit more transparent on their project, especially at $30 a bottle. May just be we are new and growing into a vision of X, but I want to know that.

Biased cause I know Treveri and Grieb family, but 2 years on lees min. and great fruit sources, designed for sparkling, just makes it easy to buy Treveri and know I get a great product at a very fair price.

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