Which vintages of red Burgundy are you drinking in 2019?

[Howard_Cooper]

At the very least, the results match up with your notion that 2004 shouldn’t be touched right about now. The wisdom of the group would add 2003, 2005 and 2006 as well as untouchables. Unfortunately, it looks like this sample would put 2010 in a similar “don’t touch” position.

This is where different concepts are getting confused. 2005s, which hopefully will eventually be great, right now should not be touched because they are too young and very primary. 2004s shouldn’t be touched because most of them taste awful and likely always will.

[Howard_Cooper]

Thanks for all of the responses so far. Three years ago, 2000 had a slight lead over 1991, 1993, 2001, 2002 and 2007. With the results so far, seems that 1990 has slight lead over 2000 and 2001–although I’d be hard pressed to argue that the difference is statistically significant. I’ll leave this open for another 10 days.

2000 fascinates me. It was thought to be mediocre. Then it was the early-drinking vintage to seek out in restaurants. Then it was the underrated gem. But now that it has been near the top of this poll for three years and probably longer, should we just call it a good vintage? Certainly it’s nowhere near as grand as vintages like 99/05/10, and will never reach the heights of the best wines from the region, but isn’t a good vintage one that is consistently delicious over a significant period of time. And bonus points for being drinkable pre-retirement home. This is a beguiling hobby.

When 2000s first came out, they seemed light - very light. They put on weight about a year or two after release and began tasting better than I thought they ever would. Same thing has happened with other Burgundy vintages like 1980, 2001 and 2007. I am wondering if it is happening with 2017, which is getting better reviews than I would have thought when I tasted some in barrel last summer.

So, yes, I believe that 2000 is a very good vintage. I went through mine long ago and wish I had purchased more. Right now, if I was looking for a wine to drink tonight on say a restaurant wine list, I would feel that the odds are more with me with a 2000 than with a 2005.

[Howard_Cooper]

Thanks for all of the responses so far. Three years ago, 2000 had a slight lead over 1991, 1993, 2001, 2002 and 2007. With the results so far, seems that 1990 has slight lead over 2000 and 2001–although I’d be hard pressed to argue that the difference is statistically significant. I’ll leave this open for another 10 days.

2000 fascinates me. It was thought to be mediocre. Then it was the early-drinking vintage to seek out in restaurants. Then it was the underrated gem. But now that it has been near the top of this poll for three years and probably longer, should we just call it a good vintage? Certainly it’s nowhere near as grand as vintages like 99/05/10, and will never reach the heights of the best wines from the region, but isn’t a good vintage one that is consistently delicious over a significant period of time. And bonus points for being drinkable pre-retirement home. This is a beguiling hobby.

Count me as a huge 2000 fan. For the wines I drink, I have been more impressed with 2000 than 1990. 1990 just strikes me as muddy at this point. 2000 I would also rank higher than 1995, which is still too structural (maybe some time it’ll come around). This will also put me in the extremist camp, but I like 2000 more than 1996, which I feel is an incredibly overrated vintage.

I have had a lot of really good 1996s. I think whether you like 1996s depends a lot on how you feel about acidity. If higher acidity puts you off, it will come across as an incredibly overrated vintage. However, if you are a German wine lover, if you believe that 2009 Bordeauxs are flabby, etc., you might find the higher acidity in 1996s resulting in incredibly fresh and food friendly wines with good fruit and long finishes. Of course, like everything in Burgundy, a view of the vintages can be very dependent on which producers and wines you have tasted.

[MChang]

Opened a 2010 Barthod Bons Batons last night. This took awhile to open up but built up intensity in the glass and was singing after being open for an hour or two.