Which Champagne are you drinking?

[B_Davies]

Did it arrive in 2 days free Prime shipping?

[B_Davies]

I either use a white wine glass or a “grand cru” champagne flute which might be at least twice as wide as the standard flute. It has a slight bowl and the glass narrows to the lip.

My parents keep trying to get me to take their coupe’s

[M.Kaplan]

Dan, I use the Lehmann mouth blown Prestige Grand Champagne 45. Love them, but they are very fragile.

[K_John_Joseph]

@Steve_Costigan

There wasn’t a hint of uncleanliness in the R-L nor in two other cuvees I previously tried. Assuming dirty/biological is what you mean by natty. I’ve had plenty of unclean natural wines from mildly ripe to downright undrinkable bio-hazard waste. I’d be surprised to find out it developed in that direction given how nice this was but I suppose bottle variation could be a variable. Cheers.

When I said Natty I really just meant a natural wine. Feral or mousey is the term I tend to use if it’s unclean.

[dbailey]

@M.Kaplan

Dan, I use the Lehmann mouth blown Prestige Grand Champagne 45. Love them, but they are very fragile.

Thanks - another expensive, fragile champagne glass isn’t really what I need… !

[DougS]

@scottkieser

H. Billiot Cuvee Laetitia:

Another bottle with noticeable VA, though at a lower amplitude this time. The VA was mild enough I could over look it, but this bottle lacked the complexity of the previous bottle and felt rather flat and dull on the palate, despite vigorous acidity and ample carbonation. Drank over two days, and while it came together a little more on day two, it didn’t really evolve and was ultimately rather boring. Seven more of these to go. I hope this was an anomaly.

This is a solera wine, with 85% of the wine from the solera, which dates back to 1983. I was expecting this wine to have a considerable amount of mature flavors, but it drinks quite young.

When were your bottles disgorged? There were problems with this wine for years. Supposedly they cleaned it up a few years ago. I haven’t had one since, so I don’t know if they were successful, but I know there were efforts.

[scottkieser]

2021 & 2022.

[DougS]

@scottkieser

2021 & 2022.

It sounds like they did not eliminate the problem. Too bad.

[WilliamS]

Which is why I have and use the machine made version of this glass. My wife and I love them and use them for most of our white wines as well!

[P_a_u_l_Christensen]

In the cheap seats tonight, a grower champagne from Lacroix-Triaulaire that I don’t really care for (and unlike Astrid I’m happy to grouch). Having said that, it’s not a bad wine, and I can see that some people who prefer an assertive tart sort of drink might like it.

Click here to expand my TN

• NV Lacroix-Triaulaire & Fils Champagne Le Biographe Brut - France, Champagne (24/10/2023)
  77/11/10/2 PN/PM/C/PB from 8 vintages. Aged for 3.5 years en caves. Dosage 7g/l. Disgorgment date not specified (L182101 in case that helps anyone).
  
  The label describes this as the "signature champagne of our house style".
  
  The nose has a slight creamy/brioche note with a sharp edge to it. On the palate there is a little of that creamy note initially, but then a crescendo of tart apples, with perhaps hints of tart red berries also, which turns just a touch bitter towards the finish. This is not a subtle champagne. And for me, despite the 7g dosage I find it rather too acidic and not very more-ish.
  
  Overall this isn't a bad wine, but it's not to my taste, and it isn't a repeat buy, even at the ~US$34 that I paid. (85 points)
  
  

[dbailey]

@WilliamS

Which is why I have and use the machine made version of this glass. My wife and I love them and use them for most of our white wines as well!

Which size bowl do you prefer?

[WilliamS]

Lehmann Jamesse Grand Champagne 41 cl.

[Kris_Patten]

@D_Pennet

Philippe Lancelot:Les Hautes d’Epernay Millésime 2017. Zero dosage, no degorgement date. Again the maltreated 2017 vintage. I always fret with these non sulphur/natural wine styled champagnes. The Hautes d’Epernay was sublime, the honey note had intensified, the minerality extremely complex, an intellectual champagne but magnificent. 97 points.

Have you tried the 2018?

[D_Pennet]

tomorrow

[N.Lehto]

Everyone remember this Friday 27th is the International Champagne Day!!!

[Jon_Lawrence]

Dan,

I have 3 versions of the Lehmann Jamesse glasses. The one on the right is a mechanically blown 45cl that I got from Amazon. They are pretty solid, heavy in the hand and tough to break. The one on the left is the mouth blown 45cl that I bought from the place in Canada that Mark shared with the group. These are nice in the hand but they are fragile. The one in the center is a 60cl mouth blown Veuve branded version that may or may not be an actual Lehmann but sure seems like one. I prefer the 60cl for Champagnes that are drinking in the zone, not too young or too old or oxidative. I use the 45cl for older and oxidative champagnes and I use a Glasvin Prestige for younger champagnes and most rosé.

[dbailey]

Jon,

Much appreciated. Do you notice any difference in champagnes when drunk in the 45cl hand blown vs machine made or is it just a weight thing?

Dan

[M.Kaplan]

Not sure that this is of any use to Dan, but the 45cl mouth blown and 41cl machine made glasses are available from K&L by the six-pack for very fair prices.
https://www.klwines.com/Products?searchText=lehmann

[Jon_Lawrence]

I did a taste test once and I felt as if the hand blown was better, but that just could have been my brain trying to convince myself it was worth the additional cost. The mouth blown is heavy for its size so if you are a fan of lighter glasses then that might sway you one or the other.

[dbailey]

At this point, I’m just a fan of glasses that can go in the dishwasher and don’t break at the merest glance across a room.