Which Carlisle are you drinking?

Had a 2022 tonight. This was with a cork. Yesterday was a twist top. Wonder if that helps with the aging? The wine is really good and diverse. Has a grass flavor and good fruit. Has some lemon. Nice soft fruit.

For those wondering about the pork, New York Times pork chops with jammy mustard glaze. This was with a fig jam and last time we used a home made apricot jam. Easy weeknight dinner.

Have this cued up for our trip to Hawaii (Big Island) you have me curious Mr. Brown, I’ll report back.

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Nice!! Looking forward to hearing how your bottle shows. Knowing Carlisle/ Montafi, this was probably an off bottle, so fingers crossed yours is much better!

And have an amazing time in Hawaii! Which island are you going to?

Thanks Rich! Big Island which is always a blast. Love Kauai too.

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Amazing! Big Island is our favorite!! Enjoy! :cheers:

The 2020 Derivative was very nice last night with roasted brats, potatoes, cabbage, etc.

The Derivative is definitely a Carlisle wine that I will miss and will need to replace in my yearly purchasing.

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Rich, I’m happy to report back on the 19 Montafi and it’s one of two things. 1). You have a hack palate 2). Just an off bottle. Reading your posts over the last 10 to 13 years(?) I think we can safely conclude it’s # 2. :sunglasses:

There was a lot of structure on this baby, so i can see it would be accentuated with a less than sound one off. Age your other bottles with full confidence.

  • 2019 Carlisle Zinfandel Montafi Ranch - USA, California, Sonoma County, Russian River Valley (7/15/2025)
    From a P&P. My gut reaction was the sheer structure and density of the 19 Montafi, more so than any other previous vintages I can recall (have had back to 07). Drank very slowly and over 90 minutes or so, the trademark of this vineyard began to emerge; a dark medley of zinberry fruits with a succulent spicy edge, in short, Zinfandel Royalty in my book. Long finish. As a further testimate to why I love these Carlisle zines so much, this paired wonderfully with just off the boat Ono fish tacos - (added with a vinegar based slaw and a pineapple and garlic salsa). On paper, this screams a German Riesling or maybe a vouvray, nope, this was spectacular with the 19 Montafi.

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I had an off bottle of 16’ Rosella’s over the weekend. My wife actually called it out. Happens sometimes.

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Ha ha! There is a VERY good chance that both things can be true :wink:

Good to hear my friend! Always one of my favorites so ill look forward to another one down the road :cheers:

I have been a rabid Carlisle fan for more than 15 years. Age (mine, not the bottles) has forced me to cut back on my acquisitions. That said, for the most part, I have found the publicized drink windows and my own experiences to not be harmonious much of the time. My ‘sweet spot’ for most Carlisle Zins is around 10 years since their vintage. That said, I always hold the bottles (one at a tiime, of course) up to a light bulb to examine the color at the wine’s edge. When a touch of terra cotta starts to appear, it is tiime to drink them, irrespective of age. Last night a friend and I had a bottle of the '16 Piner Olivet with a lovely Mexican meal. The wine was fantastic! Round, rich, and showing maturity but not its age. It took more than a half an hour to fully open. Delicious! My counsel: if the color is holding up, don;t be in such a hurry. These bottles will never appear again. Enjoy them!!

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Release is open. Order in. First of the Carlisle 23s

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Order in here as well. Kinda bittersweet knowing that there won’t be too many more releases :cry:

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Had to dig deep on this one.

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In for an order but my goodness the shipping! To MA but still…

I think they used to subsidize the shipping and may still do so but the cost is definitely more than in the past.

You are correct Jeff. Our shipping cost for a case of wine to the East Coast is up $4 from last year. To help with shipping, we do subsidize shipping a bit. We also offer the wines at pre-release pricing which, in almost all cases, more than covers the shipping cost.

Cheers!

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Or you guys could just live here in the Bay Area, and pick up your wines! Of course, that’s a 200 mile round trip, so at an all in 50c/mile, about $100 :wink:

In for two cases - where I will store them I have no idea - but I’ll figure it out - first world problems I guess. Love these wines!

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Needed a couple of hours of air to mellow out, very satisfying

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A ten year old Carlisle Carlisle, which could be my favorite as it drinks great at any age. However, this ten year one makes me want to hold even longer now. My taste buds keep leaning toward older Carlisle wines. I drink a bottle and move out my estimate to try the next one. Soon I won’t have any to drink now. They have great tasting notes of all their vintages and drinking windows on their website. First vintage I have in 2014 so I might be sad short term. But a great wine and a great winery. Only two more years of buying from them.

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