What would you order off this list . . . for $100

[H_Wallace_Jr]

@D. Zylberberg

Daniel is not $220 for dinner - it’s $125.

It is $220 for the glutonious tasting menu. Daniel Restaurant NYC | Tasting Menu

[Alan_Rath]

@Rick Smith

I don’t think Daniel offers corkage.

Yeah, well, I guess as a southern Californian, I have a hard time letting someone reach into my pocket and extract so much money. Personally, I’d find another restaurant that isn’t intent on puffing itself up by charging such exorbitant prices. I do understand that it costs a lot to maintain a wine list with the quality they have, and there are apparently plenty of people who can afford it and want to give their patronage to the place. For me it crosses a sensibility threshold.

[Howard_Cooper]

@D. Zylberberg

Unfortunately, zero flexibility, which is a shame because I think things get more interesting at around $120 or so. It’s one of those things where every penny I go below $100 is better, and at $100 he leaps around the table and wrings my neck.

My first pass came up with:

2011 Bedell Cab Franc - $50 — that generally goes for $20-25 retail, so the multiple is tolerable. I like Bedell’s wines - and that should be as accessible as Cab Franc gets. Have leftover $$ for a half bottle of white.
2010 Stolpman “Originals” Syrah - $80 — should be friendly to the non winegeeks. Leaves headroom under $100. Stands up to the fall dishes on the menu.
2004 Chateau Massereau Cuvee K - $75 — Old school bordeaux with some age; could be too tight/geeky for mom & pop and big multiple (over 3x)
2006 Domain Lionnet Cornas “Terre Brulees” - $100 — seems like just good ol’ Cornas.
2006 Crete de Ruyere Chiroubles - $55 — Great Gilman review. Tolerable 2.5x multiple. Some age.
2010 Domaine Petitot CdNV “Vignottes” - $85 — seems like decent, honest burg. Hard to find elsewhere.

Whites -
2010 Huet HL Sec (half bottle) - $50 — duh.
2002 Weller-Lehnert “Piesporter Goldtröpchen” Kabinett -$60 — never heard of it. Doesn’t seem to be available elsewhere.
2010 Keller “Von der Fels” - $75 — Love this wine.
2007 Georg Breuer “Charm” QbA Halbtrocken - $25 – I’ve had a bottle of this from another vintage and it wasn’t halb bad.

If you get the Breuer, which I have not had, you can add a 1/2 bottle of Pibarnon (for a red) and stay under $100.

[doug_johnson]

I’d probably ask how these are doing…
MERCUREY PREMIER CRU Domaine Faiveley “Clos des Myglands” 1999 100
Domaine Faiveley “Clos des Myglands” 1996 100

Let us know what you decide on!

[Mark_Golodetz]

I tried halving prices, and still didn’t find anything.

And as far as I know, Daniel does not accept corkage. The $100 would be much better spent bringing your own wine, then your father could not really grumble.

[M_Hudson]

Two options I see.

First if its this difficult and I mean for you and the family, I would just have mixed drinks and skip the wine all together.

Its supposed to be a celebration and why make him angry or you drink cheap wine.

Other choice is talk to him in advance and tell him you want to supplement the hundred on your own, say give him 50 in advance. Explain you do appreciate him taking you there, but the wine is important to you and you want to honor his wishes and are willing to pay the rest.

[Keith_Levenberg]

@M Hudson

Two options I see.

First if its this difficult and I mean for you and the family, I would just have mixed drinks and skip the wine all together.

Its supposed to be a celebration and why make him angry or you drink cheap wine.

Other choice is talk to him in advance and tell him you want to supplement the hundred on your own, say give him 50 in advance. Explain you do appreciate him taking you there, but the wine is important to you and you want to honor his wishes and are willing to pay the rest.

Seriously?? You find those options preferable to having a nice, tasty, inexpensive wine?

[Paul_Jaouen]

Ask the Somm. That is what they are there for and usually have some good ideas on the low end.

[Dav1dZ]

@doug johnson

I’d probably ask how these are doing…
MERCUREY PREMIER CRU Domaine Faiveley “Clos des Myglands” 1999 100
Domaine Faiveley “Clos des Myglands” 1996 100

Let us know what you decide on!

I love the Faiveley mercureys, but for whatever reasons the 1999s faded real fast. The Framboiserie was an awesome wine when younger.

[Howard_Cooper]

@Mark Golodetz

I tried halving prices, and still didn’t find anything.

And as far as I know, Daniel does not accept corkage. The $100 would be much better spent bringing your own wine, then your father could not really grumble.

Really? Not Huet, Chidane, von Schubert, etc.?

[Scott_Watkins]

I think the whole wine list is unspeakable gluttony

But I would go for the Domaine Faiveley “Clos des Myglands"

[paul_clark]

I drank the 2011 from Lionnet this weekend. Very solid Cornas. But I wouldn’t spend $100 on a bottle. There is a white on there from domaine guiberteau, a 2010. I had the 2009 about a month back. The first three hours the wine was tight and impossible to read because of its closed nature. After three hours the tables turned. It opens up to reveal a grand wine. I was speechless. I haven’t had a white wine that powerful and that subtle in a long time. And fresh, my god a deliciously strict acidity that keeps the wine walking a tight rope down your palate. And the price on the list is only 2x what I paid in a store here in Lausanne. I would call ahead, ask them to decant that bottle a few hours in dvance and i would be completely content I was getting a great wine at an acceptable mark up…$95 on this list. Much better deal than the Cornas (which I highly recommend but at no more than half the price). I would be happy pay $95 for the Guiberteau, the wine is spectacular.

@D. Zylberberg

Unfortunately, zero flexibility, which is a shame because I think things get more interesting at around $120 or so. It’s one of those things where every penny I go below $100 is better, and at $100 he leaps around the table and wrings my neck.

My first pass came up with:

2011 Bedell Cab Franc - $50 — that generally goes for $20-25 retail, so the multiple is tolerable. I like Bedell’s wines - and that should be as accessible as Cab Franc gets. Have leftover $$ for a half bottle of white.
2010 Stolpman “Originals” Syrah - $80 — should be friendly to the non winegeeks. Leaves headroom under $100. Stands up to the fall dishes on the menu.
2004 Chateau Massereau Cuvee K - $75 — Old school bordeaux with some age; could be too tight/geeky for mom & pop and big multiple (over 3x)
2006 Domain Lionnet Cornas “Terre Brulees” - $100 — seems like just good ol’ Cornas.
2006 Crete de Ruyere Chiroubles - $55 — Great Gilman review. Tolerable 2.5x multiple. Some age.
2010 Domaine Petitot CdNV “Vignottes” - $85 — seems like decent, honest burg. Hard to find elsewhere.

Whites -
2010 Huet HL Sec (half bottle) - $50 — duh.
2002 Weller-Lehnert “Piesporter Goldtröpchen” Kabinett -$60 — never heard of it. Doesn’t seem to be available elsewhere.
2010 Keller “Von der Fels” - $75 — Love this wine.
2007 Georg Breuer “Charm” QbA Halbtrocken - $25 – I’ve had a bottle of this from another vintage and it wasn’t halb bad.

[John_Morris]

@D. Zylberberg

Unfortunately, zero flexibility, which is a shame because I think things get more interesting at around $120 or so. It’s one of those things where every penny I go below $100 is better, and at $100 he leaps around the table and wrings my neck.

But you said once here that you grew up drinking Neal Rosenthal wines at home – wines that are always aggressively priced.

[Nathan_Smyth]

Two other ideas:

1. How bad are the markups on the scotch?

2. “Dad, let’s take the ($125 + $125 + $100) which we would have spent at that fancy restaurant, and instead let’s get us a nice bottle of wine and some takeout and kick back and watch us some football on the boobtube.”

If you choose 2), then be advised that Burger King has this awesome new product, called “Satisfries”.

[Dav1dZ]

@John Morris

@D. Zylberberg

Unfortunately, zero flexibility, which is a shame because I think things get more interesting at around $120 or so. It’s one of those things where every penny I go below $100 is better, and at $100 he leaps around the table and wrings my neck.

But you said once here that you grew up drinking Neal Rosenthal wines at home – wines that are always aggressively priced.

Indeed. But lots of Bourgogne and Cotes du Rhone. (Its entirely possible we drank that Rollin Pernand at a family dinner when I was home from college…)

[John_Morris]

@D. Zylberberg

Its entirely possible we drank that Rollin Pernand at a family dinner when I was home from college…

Did you like it? He uses stems: Domaine Rollin Père et fils à Pernand-Vergelesses | Grand vins de Bourgogne

[Michael_Lewis]

@D. Zylberberg

(Its entirely possible we drank that Rollin Pernand at a family dinner when I was home from college…)

That is a great f*in wine. How come I rarely see it around anymore?

[Dav1dZ]

@John Morris

@D. Zylberberg

Its entirely possible we drank that Rollin Pernand at a family dinner when I was home from college…

Did you like it? He uses stems: Domaine Rollin Père et fils à Pernand-Vergelesses | Grand vins de Bourgogne

Would you believe that I find whole cluster entirely unobjectionable in whites?

[Dav1dZ]

@Michael Lewis

@D. Zylberberg

(Its entirely possible we drank that Rollin Pernand at a family dinner when I was home from college…)

That is a great f*in wine. How come I rarely see it around anymore?

It’s funny, you still see plenty of Cornu everywhere but Rollin has vanished from the shelves of NYC.

Cornu’s wines are still damn good value.

[Ken_V]

No chance of changing the venue? There are so many restaurants in NYC with excellent food and much more reasonable wine lists. How much you spend on a bottle of wine has nothing to do with “gluttony”. How many bottles may. Since this is about price and not gluttony, why not go to a more modestly priced restaurant. Daniel is a splurge restaurant.