This Valdespino is our current regular sip.
Yes, that is a beautiful wine. I would have called it out by name if it was more readily available.
Valdespino also did a PC Anada in 2000.
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Do you all store older sherry upright? I was just reading that some collectors do because the high alcohol can cause the cork to disintegrate over decades.
Drinkers versus colectors?
Madeira and Port collectors would like to know more.
Funny you should mention it: Difference between storing Madeira and Port? | Tom Cannavan's wine-pages.com
I meant that Iāve hung out with people very seriously into Port and Madeira and have never heard anything different about wine storage for those versus unfortified wines.
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I canāt speak for others, but we store our madeira upright for all the reasons in the article above. And when we have visited the island, thatās what we have mostly seen at the top houses. We have a lot of ancient madeira, but very little truly old sherry, so it hasnāt come up.
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This was excellent.
- NV Equipo Navazos La Bota de Manzanilla Pasada 110 "Capataz Cabo" - Spain, AndalucĆa, Manzanilla de SanlĆŗcar de Barrameda (7/2/2026)
Medium gold. Nose of varnish, pinch of curry, dried fruits. On palate, intense, umami, high acidity. Tastes like a salty amontillado (makes sense for the category). Kaleidoscopic in its depth. (93 points)
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Well it wasnāt on anyoneās list of producers, but from what I could find, this Osborne is worth it. It says Dark Mahogany on the label, but pretty sure itās just an older bottle of the BC 200
Had this bottle of the I Think manzanilla the other night and was not expecting this color or the Olorosoish flavors. I didnāt realize it was the 2014 saca when I bought them. Are the older ones always like this? Was not the bright refresher I was looking for.
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thatās an old Manzanilla, and the age may be the explanation behind your experience, yes. I am a few days into a 2022 saca Manzanilla (also an EN!) and Iām having an experience similar to yours. Itās not bad, but itās also not stereotypical Manzanilla Fino, either. of further note about your wine, in particular: itās an En Rama bottling, which also is likely to explain at least a portion of your experience, too.
I definitely should have paid a little more attention to what was in that email before buying six (half) bottles I guess? Oh well, it is a very interesting wine nonetheless. It honestly did not occur to me that I was ordering en rama Manzanilla that was bottled 12 years ago.
I have the 25 version and it definitely has subtle rancio characters. Itās not all piercing salinity.
Oh, wow! That was advertised in a recent email offer?!?
Bought it in April!
Wow. I hope the email mentioned this is a 2014 saca. I hope it mentioned it is an En Rama Manzanilla. These things needed to be mentioned ā at a bare minimum mentioned, and a more responsible/honest purveyor should be pointing these things out ā going above and beyond mere mention. If these things were not at least mentioned in the email, Iād consider that a dishonest/slimy email.
Cross-post from the wine-pages board, but Iām seeking further info on this bottle I recently picked up:
Does anyone have any experience with it?
Hi Simon,
Very interesting bottle you have there, and apparently even more mysterious! I am extremely curious to know more about this, but my Google searching is apparently no better than anyone elseās both here and on WP.
Iād suggest contacting the winery to inquire further:
- Emailsac.domecqbodegas@pernod-ricard.com
- Tel+34 956 151 500
- Fax+34 956 338 674
- WebsiteVisit website
Please let us know what you learn!
Cheers Brian, I may send them an email to try and find out more!
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