NZ SB. I hate grapefruit
I wouldnât say I find any unflawed wines disgusting, but my least favorite style of wine is carbonic Gamay. I keep trying to like it but thus far I have failed. One day, I hope.
Taste differs and not to argue over your preference but sometimes I feel Natural is used rather narrow when mentioned in a negative sense.
Agree on bad natural wines being shitty. Non natural bad wines can be shitty as well. Personally taste will determine what is more disgusting of the two
Maybe a matter of definition of course, think I mentioned somewhere in past threads, that the heights are high and to me many of the great wines incl. DRC (not sure Iâll ever have the pleasure but thatâs another story) for example is somewhat of natural winemakers.
To make the best wines (true to terroir) I would argue that itâs not possible to work in any other direction than towards ânaturalâ. However they work in that direction to make the best wines possible, not to be natural for the sake of it.
For those wanting to give Sparkling Shiraz another go, Iâd especially recommend Primo Joseph.
For myself, Chateau Chalon would be difficult to try again, which is a shame as I bought two bottles of it. The first did not go down well.
so-called natural wines, then sous voile.
Saying that you donât like natural wines (if we are talking no sulfites added?) is like saying you donât like riesling or chardonnay. Thoundsands and thousands of natural wines are made in different styles, also wines that a not overly dominanted by brett, VA and other âfunky stuffâ.
I am not the biggest riesling fan, but i donât disregard that good examples exists.
My most disgusting style of wine? I donât make wine, so none.
When I started out on my wine journey, I thought I should like natural wines. Went through a lot of them and some were absolutely awesome (lâAnglore for example).
What really put me off though was the taste of sauerkraut I found in many reds, especially from the Loire (Tue Boeuf in particular if I recall correctly). And not even the nice sauerkraut with cream, bacon and potatoes. This was the stuff straight from the barrel!
Curious what caused that actuallyâŚ
Agreed, we had a taste of a natural Italian white at the weekend. The taste immediately took me back to the badly made wines I started with in the 1980s.
Most Shiraz (I get this distinct bubblegum note in a lot of them that I really donât care for), high octane wines that remind me of Port, highly oaked white wines.
This. Saying one does not like natural wines because they all are funky and weird and awful is like saying one does not like Californian wines because they all are over-oaked, super-ripe and awful.
Usually this is a careful combination of VA, a bit of reduction from aging on the lees and still somewhat noticeable MLF note in younger bottles. Yes, Iâve had that slightly greenish, slightly skunky note in Tue-Boeuf wines. Fortunately it blows off with some aeration and many Tue-Boeuf wines are pretty darn lovely as long as they donât get too funky.
I love that combo in Nebbiolo but for whatever reason, when I have Barolo Chinato, and maybe itâs the gentian or quinine, I get the really strong smell of old lady powder room.
You never walk in a store and think, âwonder what the foulest thing in here isâ?
Give you half price for your Cayuse! Now if you were talking about an overipe, highly scored Washington State Cabernet I could get behind that!
You donât like Dubble Bubble Grape Gum?
I am not a fan of Cayuse, there is an âoffâ smell that I find offensive in about 75% of the wines; I shouldnât be smelling raw-day-old scallops in Syrah, nor burnt rubber.
I am also equally offended by Caymus, somewhere between 2010 & beyond there was a serious style shift that I just canât stomach.
Iâll never buy it because of the atrocious design. Iâd be mortified to ever serve something in that bottle.
Retsina is wine? I thought it was secreted by pine trees.
I generally am a big nebbiolo fan, but the absolute most disgusting wine Iâve ever had was a 1967 Gattinara that was way over the hill. Some of these way-too-old nebbiolo based wines develop an absolutely revolting metallic taste that gets up in your sinuses and refuses to leave. Just awful. Iâve experienced it a few times- but that Gattinara was the absolute pits. It really does feel like Iâm drinking something toxic.
For all the Pinotage haters out there, Fort Ross might change your mind Itâs a winery out in the Fort Ross Seaview AVA on the extreme Sonoma coast founded and owned by a South African couple. They concentrate on Pinot Noir and Chardonnay, but make a varietal Pinotage, as well as a blend of 95% Pinot and 5% Pinotage called Symposium. Both are quite lovely.