What have you been drinking from the Mâconnais?

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My message in post No. 40 …is not trying to be negative.

Here is the basic …about Burgundy - according to M. Kramer is his book - Chapter 3 : A world of born is not a world of made.

Maconnais…is little bite too far south of CdB.

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It’s a catchy but naive line that betrays considerable ignorance of the history of Burgundy and how it came to be what it is today.

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I also started buying Burgundy in the early 1980s (started drinking it earlier thanks to my father). I think I have enough Burgundy in my cellar to last for my lifetime, but still have some interests in the Cote d’Or. In particular, there are some producers I still want to be buying and have gotten very interested in CM reds. And, based on a few wines that I have tasted plus a lot of posts from William Kelley, I am interested in what is going on in the Mâconnais and Chalonnaise. Some Burgundy lovers have moved to domestic Pinot and Chardonnay as prices have gotten higher. I hope to still be buying Burgundy, but they may not all be from the Cote d’Or.

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Very well said…William. I have no argument at all with your opinion in that my line did create a misunderstand that Burgundy is all about CdNuits ( a world of born ) and also red burgundy is all about Roumier and Muginier ( a world of made )

I wish you were with Wine Advocate when I first started in the early 1980s to learn about Burgundy. grouphug

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I deleted a post that in retrospect was rushed and too snarky. If I find time, I might add some more constructive thoughts later about how my Macon wines have aged over a couple decades.

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Desjourneys:
2016 Macon-Verze also terrific. Excellent complexity for Macon.

Have 2017 Les Longeays on order.

Also (albeit not Macon) , 2009 Moulin a Vent, good if perhaps not typical Beaujolais (to me at least). Black fruit, garrigue, sage, almost hint of sweetness.

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Opened a 2018 Les Héritiers du Comte Lafon Mâcon-Uchizy “Les Maranches” tonight - a superb value!

Yup, producer over appellation, almost every time. Rich, dense but kept taut by juicy acid, lightly reduced on the nose, layered with lightly buttered apples, slightly salty chalky minerals, and a bit of golden raisin on the end. Could pass for 1er Cru Meursault from a good producer! 92

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After more than a decade I’ve rediscovered Guffens-Heynen. Amazing wines.

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A 2019 Vire-Clessé from Rijckaert-Rouve last night. I must admit I have a slight preference for their Jura chardonnay, but this is still a super wine for the money and feels like it should age well in the short to medium term. Add to that Jean Rijckaert was an absolute gentleman when we stayed at his chambres d’hote, then the respect is strengthened. I never spoke to Florent Rouve, but considering his colleague had just brought some wine over from their Jura operation, I’m guessing that was him I saw (back then it was only Jean’s name on the label).

I will be seeking out the Pouilly-Fuissé wines (a [personal favourite region), though the national chain with a shop local to me (Majestic) never seem to have it in stock.

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Would very much like to hear your thoughts on this, with or without snark is good by me.

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I have had good experiences from mid 1990s to mid 2000s vintages when wines were imported under good conditions. Like the Thevenet and Goyard (Roally pre Thevenet) wines sold in NYC. And Daniel Barraud. I think Ferret import conditions were a little dicey back in the day per the other current thread on the Winebid auction.

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I imagine I’m covering much of the same ground when I note that I wish my 1995 through 1998s from Ramonet, Sauzet, Niellon, and many other well-regarded producers from the Côte de Beaune had aged as gracefully and well as my Roallys, Bongrans, and Guillemot-Michels from those vintages.

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The 1995 Bongran had Botrytis, which gave it a certain patina, but one of the best buys ever was 1996 in magnum. That was incredible and pure. Wish I had more.

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This past weekend I also opened the 2019 Domaine Leflaive Macon-Verze, side by side with their 2019 Pouilly Fuisse. I was very impressed with the fruit concentration and seriousness of both. The Macon-Verze was more round and has a slightly more citrus fruit finish while the Pouilly Fuisse had more acid lift and general poise. Both should be excellent to drink over the next several years. It doesn’t appear that Leflaive neglects these wines much relative to their CdB holdings.