What does "fully mature" mean?

[Eric_Keating]

@G. D y e r

“There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don’t know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don’t know we don’t know.” - Donald Rumsfeld on knowing whether a wine is mature, peaking, or as good as it gets but not necessarily at its best.

perfect.

I find it funny when people say that if they opened the bottle a day later that it would fall apart. The range of ‘almost at it’s peak’ to ‘at it’s peak’ to ‘starting to decline’ can be several years in many cases.

But it’s fun to guess & discuss anyway!

[G_D_y_e_r]

I’d say precise statements are impossible. It’s sort of an uncertainty principle thing. If you know position absolutely, you have no knowledge of momentum. So if you know exactly how a bottle of wine is, you opened it (a measurement). And therefore you have zero knowledge where it’s going (wavefunction collapsed). Just like the cat in the box . . . .

You could comment on a wine being mature in a general sense, but saying it’s on a given point on the aging curve seems hard to project. Especially since each bottle is unique.

[Brian_G_r_a_f_s_t_r_o_m]

aarrhrgaahh!!! too much quantum!! my head hurt!! [suicide.gif]


… all better now.

[Peter_Kleban]

@Serge Birbrair

fully mature = 21 y/o +1 day
“In the right place” - the cool place with subdued lighting.

Same applies to not just a Bordeaux

I thought you like them mature, not starlets

[C_Grimm]

@Peter Kleban

but if it’s drinking it’s best, it can’t get any better. So it’s the same thing. Or is there some special winespeak that’s escaping me?

+1.

“fully mature” is a euphemism for “over the hill (but I own it).”

Akin to George Carlin’s bit on the difference between “stuff” and “sh!t.” If it’s your buddy’s wine, it’s over the hill. If it’s your’s, it’s fully mature.