What BEER are you drinking? (Part 2)

It tastes awful to me, and always has. Sour beers like Cantillon I can appreciate a sip or two, but 99.9% of the time I can’t stand the taste, or even the smell. The reason I dislike most natural wine is that quite often the taste is reminiscent of beer to me.

It’s a bit odd, as I like nearly all foods - not talking college hazing stuff - including most of the challenging flavors and textures, but I just hate beer. And cola.

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Mexico is not your exile country! Both in great abundance.

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He’s doing it right. :+1:

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Belgium arguably makes some of the best beers on the planet. Sometimes the yeast strains can wear you down but like anything— moderation.

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Derp. I was so turned off by the Cantillon pic that I failed to notice the Westy 12 in the next pic! I DO miss those…

Have only had it once, courtesy of @Craig_G, it was pretty good. Wish I had the chance to try it more often.

I did just land some of another favorite

Madueño Brewing Tijuana NEIPA. On draught here in town. I had three! Could stand within North Park line-up.

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Nice, I find some beers color and transparency intriguing and that one really does it for me.

Really cool that folks down your way are doing interesting projects.

Who doesn’t like a Dortmunder style Export Lager?! Totally common right?!?!? Slightly bready. Yummy.

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Craft is so huge in Mexico. I want to visit Monterrey for a beer tour only.

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I’m going to a beer dinner tasting party tonight. Here’s the line up. Only tiny pours thankfully— but lots of them.

Miss Block 15. Santiam Brewing never quite demonstrated excellence for me.

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I’ll be curious how the Old Stock Ale shows. That’s one that I never cellared, but North Coast was so good in the early era

I used to have a vertical of Old Stock going 2004-21013 or so before I decided to drink them. The majority kept/aged very well. I finally started drinking all my old beer as I found that after 3 years they didn’t develop further. I didn’t need another vice like aging beer AND wine.

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Canadian bar here opened for Gold Medal Men’s Hockey.

All team red here. Illegal beer being poured, special red ale for game.

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The 2010 Old Stock drank better than the 2007. This tasting reminded me that very few beers excel after 5 years of age. Firestone Walker for example. The Fort George, Fremont and Bourbon County drank best. Many just tasted like bakers chocolate, dry, bitter Some too boozy, one had soured, others even with high abv and barrel aged weren’t built for the long haul.

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Can you share some context for that tasting?

Cases of old beer? (For disappointment?)

That’s a Lot of Stickee Monkee which is not a beer I would try to age.

The theme changes year to year. This year was stouts/barleywines/barrel aged beers. The ciders were thrown in as palate resets if you saw the list above. Most had abv over 10% Unlike IPA, Pilsner and lagers some beer can age. Sours, Belgian beers, and high abv beers can go 10 years due to various factors- malt, bottle conditioning, barrel influences. The aging curve is much shorter but it’s still there. I find many plateau at 3 years and can stay they for another 3-5 years before they head downhill.

In particular I find Firestone Walker boxed beers are best within 2 years. None showed well the other night I was looking forward to the Stickee Monkey but it was just okay. And like anything expectation, palate drift, recipe change can impact the experience.

That’s my 2 cents.

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I aged a lot of stouts and strong ales and found I prefer them fresh (Firestone, bcbs, north coast, founders, cigar city etc). Even the ones with no adjuncts or bba only had faded flavors vs fresh. I’ve got a local 2013 anniversary barrel aged stout and I’ll probably bring it to their next anniversary release.

Santa Sabina, GDL, never disappoints. One day they need a twelve bottle showdown with Ft George.