What about BURGUNDY 2010?

Yes, it’s quite good.

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Low-budget example, but I did open a 2010 Clos l’Arlot this week. Really pretty (transparent, red, lacy) on opening and somewhat Mugnier-like. It turned darker, more clumsy, and less fresh midway during dinner. Last bit showed improvement towards the end of the meal, though decidedly much less impressive than at the beginning.

Before decanting, I had poured off a 375ml, which we had the following day. Still leaning dark-fruited but much more cohesive, balanced, and enjoyable. I’ve had a few 2010 1ers, and I think there is upside to further cellaring, even if they seemed to be good to go for early consumption.

Count me as a 2009 fan as well (fruit is not an f-word for me) though I have a bit of both years in the cellar.

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We did a vertical of Mugnier’s Marechale in January, 2023. The 2010 was the best wine of its flight and stood out. The 14’ was also a standout.
You had the sense that this was a winemaker and a (rustic) terroir that showed better in cooler years.

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As is Fuées

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2014 Mugnier is generally special, yeah. One of his best vintages.

I have tried no grand crus yet; the very few things I’ve sampled in the past few years either seemed like they were holding back or needed way too much air time to show well enough for me to want to drink more for a while (Villaine Digoine, which is usually drinking well by now; Barthod CM villages; a couple of Nick Rossignol Volnay 1er crus; Comte Armand Epeneaux; Jadot Suchots; Gouges Pruliers).

Yes; the 2010 Amoureuses a year and a half ago was one of the best wines I had that year.

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I have not had any advanced 2010s (reds) but certainly some recent 2009s that have evolved MUCH faster than expected (more so than 08s and certainly 10s). Examples are Hudelot Vosne 1er Beaumonts and Bruno Clair Clos de Beze. So I’m intrigued by thoughts that the 2009s might be tasting younger than 2010s! Of course, my sample size is more anecdote than data, but it’s all the observation I have :slight_smile:

*corrected one of the wine examples, it was the CdB and not the BM

I have found many 09s to be rather backward and many 10s to need plenty of time.
Last week’s 09 H-N Bourgogne was rather young and backward.
Need to crack a 10 this week.

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Good to hear, Kent, that you are finding both vintages needing more time (which is what one would want to expect from great vintages). I would be concerned if my recent “advanced” bottles of 2009 are typical, and wondered if that’s what William was saying. Frankly, my recent 2009 experiences have been more advanced than the 2003s which is quite something, if the theory were that the heat of 2009 has meant wines will experience accelerated development!

Back to the topic of 2010s, but of course with the usual berserker penchant for thread drift: I’ve found many 2010 whites have been readier than I expected (more so than 2009s or 2011s)!

I’ve opened precious few (red) 2010s but read everyone else’s notes avidly. At the last few La Paulee’s I’ve attended (2020, 2019), in the Verticals tasting 2010 has stood out as consistently more complex delicious and interesting than other vintages (much) more often than not. 10, 11, 12? 10 the best. 08, 10, 13? 10 the best. 10, 15, 16. Guess what? Many more examples. Noticeable.

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Had the 2010 a year ago in Cannes. Exquisite and still a bit coiled. Should continue to age well

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I have opened a lot of 09s lately including probably half a dozen drc and Rousseau bottlings and have found them needing more time, if anything. 10 has felt more open to me.

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I know most of the thread has centered on red, but thoughts on 2010 white? I ask because a local retailer has some 2010 Jacques Carillon Puligny-Montrachet for an attractive price ($60). I didn’t grab it initially b/c of pre-mox concerns and its storage – it’s a big box store, so the bottles are out on display and likely haven’t been at cellar temp in a while. But given the producer and price, I am thinking about taking a flyer.

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2010 whites are stupendous! Lafon Charmes and Leflaive Chevy have been among the best whites I’ve had. Even the Olivier Leflaive CC was really good (at least the one that wasn’t advanced).

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Grab them!

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I’d buy one and see what it’s like. That era Carillon has some premox issues for sure, unfortunately.

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What a weird coincidence. A UK merchant was offering 6 packs of j carillon pm referts and champs canet today for £55 IB/bt ($88 all in). I grabbed them as fast as I could!

Buying known premox-prone wines a decade after bottling is nuts. Even more nuts if it’s from unknown storage. This is why the problem still ain’t fixed and the wines cost more than they did when they weren’t defective.

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I can’t argue with your first point, although I haven’t seen any reports of these particular wines being being particularly POX prone. However, storage was known in this case. Wines were IB and stored with the merchant since release.