Most I’ve tried of late are showing more tannin than fruit and I’ve begun to switch consumption to 04s (the few that arent green), 01s and 06s.
Any 05s you’ve tried still rocking?
Only two opened recently, Lamarche Vosne Suchots which was still very much open and seemingly a very great wine, and Digioia-Royer Chambolle Les Fremiers, completely shut down.
I don’t think most 04s should be drunk currently, and I find the characterisation of the vintage as ‘green’ puzzling.
The 2005 Nicolas Potel Nuits St. Georges that I had a couple months ago was very good.
None here,
Shut down hard from the last couple bottles I’ve had.
Cathérine et Claude Maréchal, Bourgogne “Cuvée Gravel” – have had 4-5 bottles in the last month or two, all equally delicious.
Most of mine are offsite, but I’ve kept my hands off the ones in-home, too. I don’t think I’ve had one '05 yet.
MAUME 2005 'EN PALLUD" GEVREY CHAMBERTIN , pretty excellent wine. A bit high on the acid at the moment but the fruit is real expressive and concentrated and pretty freaking tasty for a village wine
Yeah that’s part of my problem, my 05s stare me in the face at every turn.
The 2005s I have tasted of late have all been hermetically sealed and in need of much more time in the cellar. I have been drinking 2000s for the most part, and starting to dip a bit into my 1998s. When I want something younger, 2002 is the vintage that I reach for, as I think this is a red Burgundy vintage that trades primarily on its beautiful fruit tones, so I feel less remorse about trying a bottle while it still is long on that puppy fat of fruit. The 2007s when they come along this fall will make fans early, as they should be delicious out of the blocks and offer a good window of transition while some of these other vintages, like 1998, 2001 and 2004 start to blossom a bit more. I just did a long piece on the 2004s, and would be happy to share it with anyone who is curious- I found a lot of very promising wines that definitely need more time in the cellar to be enjoyed optimally. The green character varies rather dramatically from wine to wine, and with many of them it declines dramatically once the wines have been open for a few days, which seems to me indicative that it will diminish as a component in the wines as they have further bottle age (though probably never be completely gone). It is a characteristic that people have very wide sensitivies to, and I have little doubt that there is a significant percentage of tasters that will never find enjoyment in the 2004s because of this component. But for those of us who are less sensitive, the top wines of the vintage will offer outstanding expressions of terroir, plenty of sweet fruit at maturity and I suspect very fine complexity. I fully expect the best 2004s to be a variation on the 1991 red Burgundy theme at their apogees, and I have plenty in my cellar to start drinking about age twelve or so.
Best,
John
John,
I’d love to see your piece on 2004 red burgs.
John - I would also be interested in your piece on the 2004s. I also agree about the 2002s, every one I’ve had this year has been very nice.
This is one of those subjects that makes me question my palate. So many are still posting positive notes about 05s and every 05 I’ve tasted, a veery small sample compared to most of you, has shown so differently from what I expect of burgs that I’m not sure how to react to the vintage.
The nature of the structure doesn’t strike me as typical of burgs (from my brief experience with the region.)
I get flashes of the fruits, minerals, spices - but overall they all strike me as hard and stouter than most burgs. I’d be hard pressed to articulate exactly what I mean by those descriptors.
I haven’t gotten the joy from the 05s that I expect from young burgs.
I don’t have experience tasting young wines and seriously projecting age worthiness - which I take it is what makes 05 such a terrific vintage.
06 burgs have offered me much more pleasure as youngsters than 05s.
The 05 Dujac Morey St. Denis we had at Berserkerfest was great but still quite young.
Recently had an 05 Camille Giroud Aloxe-Corton 1er Cru Les Guérets which was pretty tasty as well.
For a villages wine, the 05 Frédéric Magnien Côte de Nuits Villages Croix Viollette was a nice find. I think I went through at least a half case of those.
I agree. 06 seems (to me at least) to be similar to 2000.
John - would you consider posting the 2004 report here? Would love to see it. Have had too many excellent wines from that vintage to write it off.
Re: 2005s, Bourgogne and lower-level village wines give good pleasure today, but even those are showing less than their full potential. Lower end 1999s are terrific now – had a Potel Pommard Eponots (sp?) (not saying it’s qualitatively lower end, just relatively cheap on release) a few weeks ago that was rocking.
Scott I’d agree, loving 06s too.
It is odd how winelovers tend to call wines that will age great, even when they’re aren’t giving much now, but wines that drink well currently are always viewed as lesser. I’m guilty of that stance myself, but it is kind of odd when you sit and think about it.
The Freddy Magnien Nuits Villages Coeur de Roches is still drinking well, I should add.
2005 Roumier Chambolle Village
Yaacov – Either you are misinformed or you have made a non-sequiter. Pommard-Epenots is one of the two greatest vineyards of Pommard, and when done correctly, can put many a Côte de Nuits grand cru to shame, as I’ve seen happen time after time in blind tastings. It is not lower-end wine.
05 A & P Villaine Mercurey Mondots is drinking beautifully now. (You can have the labor of the manager of the DRC for $30/btl!) I have not dared open any other 05s.
Karl