We're not normal : )

It’s actually a Carrefour market “vivi di gusto” in Torino. Just the black label version of Taurasi and a few whites .

A wine friend tried 19 Crimes chardonnay and said it was the worst chardonnay he’s tasted but he liked the label.

I was in Best Buy a few months ago buying a new TV and was impressed with their Magnolia Audio selection.

B & W, MacIntosh, Martin Logan and KEF among others.

Yep. I keep waiting for them to close out some B&W speakers so I can upgrade my 28 year old set.

Hi Marco
Ah, it was just a small Carrefour we visited (via San Quintino). I love the *small specialist shops in Torino (e.g. Primizie di Osvaldo at the Porta Susa end of via San Quintino, with very fine fruit and the white truffle we bought was probably the most fragrant one we’ve ever bought), but for a small supermarket, the Carrefour was very good.

If the vivi di gusto Carrefour is in Chieri, then I’d be very interested in your views of Chieri as a place to stay. I’d looked at it before as a potential option that might offer:

  • Flexibility to have a car (we wouldn’t enjoy driving in Torino)
  • Easy options to take bus or train into the city
  • Enough there to be able to walk to a restaurant/trattoria/enoteca in the evening, and have enough variety for a week

but this last trip was very much a shopping trip, so staying in an apartment on via XX Settembre was very convenient.

I do like the black label Taurasi, in addition to the white label riserva, and indeed also the Naturalis Historia, even though I feared it might be a little modern/international for my tastes, and it most certainly wasn’t.

Regards
Ian

  • Sad to see the end of Baita del Formagg on via Lagrange and Antica enoteca del Borgo on via Monferrato, two favourite places for us over the last 15 years, though their closure makes me ever more determined to use the smaller shops. For me they are a genuine treasure.

19 Crimes!

They had a “prison ship” themed expo at Outside Lands last summer and I recall how nice they were and my wife won a lovely T-shirt. I could tell that the chard was a chard, which is good for festival wines.

I think we got souvenir convict portraits, as well.

Huzzah!

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She couldn’t understand it and felt that it was silly to do so. I turned to her and asked if it was equally as silly that someone would pay her $15K for a painting when they could go into Ethan Brothers and pick up a poster for $15.

It hit home for her. For other people, not so much.

But as far as the Peter Lehmann, it’s not an awful wine. It’s Barossa, it’s ripe, but it’s an honest wine and I don’t find it disgusting at all. Worlds away from something like Meiomi. And for anyone who’s interested in the backstory, years ago he was told by the people who bought the corporation he was working for to tell all the growers their grapes weren’t needed. There was a downturn in the wine market and the corporation didn’t need them.

He said that the farmers and families depended on selling those grapes so he bought them himself, on borrowed money and prayers. But he kept a number of families afloat and they never forgot him. Later, when things turned around, he was always given pick of the grapes.

A true gentleman and a classy guy all the way around.

It also amuses me how my family and friends consider me a total wine snob yet here I feel like quite the neophyte.
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I so relate to this.

$30? We drink fantastic wine for $20 frequently. If you’re spending $30, you can get a very nice bottle of wine with some shopping.

Fantastic, Barbera, Beaujolais, riesling, Loire, Languadoc, Rioja, bubbles etc etc…I think you can find really well done wine for $30 and have hundreds of options at the $20 price point for daily drinkers. This of course, depends on where you live. We are lucky here in Oregon.

Don’t knock Gnarly Head Old Vine Zin until you’ve tried it. Someone brought a bottle to a party of mine a couple of years ago. I goofed and didn’t open it for the crowd, so I tried it a few days later. It was quite potable and tasted like zin. It didn’t go down the drain!

+1 The vin de pays is remarkable value at $14 or $15. Half merlot, as I recall, but really good. I like the CdR more than many Chateauneufs.