well this is weird (2008 Ch. Montrose)

[Neal.Mollen]

Second Grand Cru Classe? Second? (It’s a mag)

[Robert.A.Jr]

My 2003 bottles and older do not say “second” but that’s now present even on their website, presumably to connote second growth.

Homepage - Château Montrose

I wonder when that started.

[Neal.Mollen]

They do still make it in France, don’t they?

[Craig_G]

@Neal.Mollen

They do still make it in France, don’t they?

It’s a French word too. Second/seconde, in this case second cru.

[Robert.A.Jr]

This is one wine I wish I had more of in my meager stash, more from a variety of vintages.

[Pat_Martin]

Il n’y a rien de mal à venir à la deuxième.

[Rick_Price]

@Pat Martin

Il n’y a rien de mal à venir à la deuxième.

Second place is first loser. (Ducks, runs & hides)

[Mark_C]

@Rick Price

@Pat Martin

Il n’y a rien de mal à venir à la deuxième.

Second place is first loser. (Ducks, runs & hides)

Canards, courir, caché. Mais tu est la réponsable. Ouack!

[Neal.Mollen]

@Craig Gleason

@Neal.Mollen

They do still make it in France, don’t they?

It’s a French word too. Second/seconde, in this case second cru.

Learn something every day, and thank you Craig for setting me straight. IN several trips to France and through 3 years of French (albeit French I three times – elementary, secondary, and college!) I never saw the word “second” or “seconde” used. Always deuxieme. I wondered if this was just a (very) modern loan from English, but it turns out the opposite is true.

second> : From Old French second, from Latin secundus (“following, next in order”), from root of sequor (“I follow”), from Proto-Indo-European *sekʷ- (“to follow”).