Washington Wine scores?

Mark_Y · October 30, 2009, 6:14am

Any Parker subscribers here can share what some of the WA wines scored?
i.e. Grand Reve, Cayuse, Betz, etc?

Just curious… i know the reviewer’s credibility is in question, but want to know for market pricing/etc knowledge

Thanks!

GregT · October 30, 2009, 2:08pm

I’m curious too. I have some Betz but I’m not opening it until I know how much I’m supposed to like it.

I’m not sure that the scores, whatever they are, are likely to move the market though.

Jorge_Henriquez · October 30, 2009, 2:17pm

100 for everything and everyone. Drink between tomorrow and 2075.

“The second most amazing vintage from any viticultural area in existence!”

That is all.

mike_pobega · October 30, 2009, 4:20pm

Jay Miller did get the 2006 Charles Smith Royal City correct tho.

Daniel_Posner · October 30, 2009, 8:11pm

Mike

That is your opinion.

You want some more?

Rob_MacKay · October 30, 2009, 8:44pm

Did the QCs all become perfect again?

Rick_Gregory · October 30, 2009, 8:52pm

Having Miller as the Washington critic… sigh. The state deserves someone who has some credibility in the wine community not the guy next to Parker at his tasting group.

Tanzer’s next issue will have the WA wines in it though, so for those of you looking for someone credible, check that out.

David_Whitworth · October 30, 2009, 8:55pm

I’m not comfortable posting copyrighted material but I will say that there were no, zero, zip, nada 100 pt wines in this most recent Washington review.

Rob_MacKay · October 30, 2009, 9:07pm

I guess they saved all the 100s for the Rhone.

Alex_Anthopoulos · October 30, 2009, 9:10pm

Agreed.

Alex

Steve_Saxon · October 30, 2009, 9:10pm

Rick, what are you talking about?
http://dat.erobertparker.com/bboard/showpost.php?p=2777575&postcount=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

mike_pobega · October 30, 2009, 9:26pm

Sure. What’s your offer?

Daniel_Posner · October 30, 2009, 9:28pm

the usual discount

mike_pobega · October 30, 2009, 9:41pm

zero point zero… [pillow-fight.gif]

Rick_Gregory · October 30, 2009, 11:06pm

Are you being ironic? Miller’s rep with the incidents like Sierra Carche is going down the tubes. Even if his scores are reasonable and notes are dead on a lot of the stuff that’s happened over the last few months seem to have called his critical skills into question for some. I’m not saying these notes are dead on or complete BS… just that I wish we’d not have the ‘new guy’ who’s rep seems the shakiest of the TWA critics at this point.

By the way, as I understand it Miller’s a guy from Parker’s circle whom he (Parker) has known for a long time. Criticism is more than just tasting and picking someone from a tasting group to be a critic in an influential publication like TWA strikes me as odd. Like it or not, the scores and notes in TWA can have a very real effect on peoples’ businesses and if you’re going to cover an area (any area) you need to realize that. If I’m wrong on this by the way, please do correct me - I’d love to hear that Miller’s got more a wine criticism background than this.

And before people say “But it’s just Washington…” we’re the second or third largest wine producing state in the US (I’ve not kept up on us vs OR in that respect). Yeah, Cali’s way out there… but you can’t really cover US wine without a serious critic looking at both WA and OR wine.

PS: I have no idea who Pohlman is, so I don’t really care about his opinion. Frankly, is there anyone left on that board that doesn’t broadly agree with TWA’s take on things?

Steve_Saxon · October 30, 2009, 11:15pm

Rick Gregory:

Steve Saxon:

Rick Gregory:

Having Miller as the Washington critic… sigh. The state deserves someone who has some credibility in the wine community not the guy next to Parker at his tasting group.

Tanzer’s next issue will have the WA wines in it though, so for those of you looking for someone credible, check that out.

Rick, what are you talking about?
http://dat.erobertparker.com/bboard/showpost.php?p=2777575&postcount=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Are you being ironic? Miller’s rep with the incidents like Sierra Carche is going down the tubes. Even if his scores are reasonable and notes are dead on he’s not viewed as a critic of the caliber of Parker, Tanzer, Galloni, Schildknecht etc. As I understand it Miller’s a guy from Parker’s circle whom he’s known for a long time. Criticism is more than just tasting and picking someone from a tasting group to be a critic in an influential publication like TWA strikes me as odd. If I’m wrong on this by the way, please do correct me - I’d love to hear that Miller’s got more a wine criticism background than this.

And before people say “But it’s just Washington…” we’re the second or third largest wine producing state in the US (I’ve not kept up on us vs OR in that respect). Yeah, Cali’s way out there… but you can’t really cover US wine without a serious critic looking at both WA and OR wine.

PS: I have no idea who Pohlman is, so I don’t really care about his opinion. Frankly, is there anyone left on that board that doesn’t broadly agree with TWA’s take on things?

I was trying to point out that Jay Miller has about as much credibility as that brown nose Pohlman. I didn’t know whether to laugh or vomit when I read that post.

Rick_Gregory · October 30, 2009, 11:19pm

Ah! I don’t really remember Pohlman, so I was wondering.

Brad_S_w_a_l_l_o_w · October 31, 2009, 1:05am

Steve Saxon:

Rick Gregory:

Steve Saxon:

Rick, what are you talking about?
http://dat.erobertparker.com/bboard/showpost.php?p=2777575&postcount=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Are you being ironic? Miller’s rep with the incidents like Sierra Carche is going down the tubes. Even if his scores are reasonable and notes are dead on he’s not viewed as a critic of the caliber of Parker, Tanzer, Galloni, Schildknecht etc. As I understand it Miller’s a guy from Parker’s circle whom he’s known for a long time. Criticism is more than just tasting and picking someone from a tasting group to be a critic in an influential publication like TWA strikes me as odd. If I’m wrong on this by the way, please do correct me - I’d love to hear that Miller’s got more a wine criticism background than this.

And before people say “But it’s just Washington…” we’re the second or third largest wine producing state in the US (I’ve not kept up on us vs OR in that respect). Yeah, Cali’s way out there… but you can’t really cover US wine without a serious critic looking at both WA and OR wine.

PS: I have no idea who Pohlman is, so I don’t really care about his opinion. Frankly, is there anyone left on that board that doesn’t broadly agree with TWA’s take on things?

I was trying to point out that Jay Miller has about as much credibility as that brown nose Pohlman. I didn’t know whether to laugh or vomit when I read that post.

The Pole-Man is nothing but a sycophant. As I recall, he once posted a Top 10 list of things that are great about ebob, and Number 6 was the decision to ban all those ne’er-do-wells who now post over here.

I think he is one of the new moderators over there too, btw.

ToddFrench · October 31, 2009, 3:13pm

There was a Top 10 list?

Is there a t-shirt made for it?

Steve_Saxon · October 31, 2009, 3:17pm

Wow, what a great idea…can someone dig up that list?

BTW, didn’t he wish Posner would die?

I guess that’s why Squires choose him for the committee.