But in the average store in the average market in this country right now, you can find a VASTLY better $75 Blanc de Blancs [or Blanc de Noirs or Blanc-de-Mixture-of-the-Two] than anything which that average store will have from Meursault or Puligny.
Burgundy pricing these days is completely insane - it’s solely for people with fiat electrons.
Conversely, if you don’t have fiat electrons, then you don’t have any business looking at Burgundy.
Right now, in that neck of the woods, the value is in Champagne.
Or, if you want to go down market, in the Jura.
I wouldn’t give the thieves in the USA 3-Tier System a wooden nickel for any of the Burgundian crap that they are selling at $75 these days.
I think this bottle cost $22 or so and was a very good value. It was my first Gouges and so only bought 1 to try but would buy several next time I see this.
2009 Domaine Henri Gouges Bourgogne- France, Burgundy, Bourgogne (7/22/2013)
Really nice burg. Reminds me of an '09 Faiveley Clos des Myglands from a few months ago…a burg fit for a Cali pinot drinker. This is ripe and fairly soft with a palate and nose shading towards darker fruits. Finishes with oomph and tart tannin. When I bought this, the shelf-talker said it was a nice intro to the Gouges house style…completely non-obvious to me from this bottle what that style is. (90 pts.)
Just cracked one of these tonight in Nathan’s honor:
My notes: this is a rich, hedonistic, well-endowed wine. These vines were clearly not grown in poor soils, but rather appear to have had every advantage. I would put this in the top 1% of wines I’ve had this year.
As a counter example, I bought some 2010 Jadot Latricieres Chambertin from Premier Cru for $80 (prearrival, oops fixed typo that said $90)…arrived about a year later (+ they’ve always delivered on my orders). Given that your starting point is $125, seems silly to ignore Premier Cru.
In addition to what others have mentioned (Pavelot,lower end Bachelet, Chandon de Briiailled, much NSG etc.) I’ve found that you’ve got to shop the sales: just caught, for example. Pierre-Yves Colin-Morey Chassagne Montrachet Vide Bourse 2009 and Faiveley 2011 Gevrey Chambertin Les Cazetiers both around $70.
Also, for what it’s worth, I think that the Gachot-Monot Cotes de Nuit Village that Kermit Lynch brings in is an extraordinarily good wine at its price point (@$35).
In my recent foray into Burgundy I’ve found much to enjoy that was below $75. Just this weekend we had an '09 Domaine des Croix, Cent Vinges, 1er cru that was $22 and also way too young to drink now. Tonight from the same domaine we’ll be drinking Corton, Vigne de Saint, that was $35. I’m sure this won’t be GC quality but still have hopes that it is well worth the money.
Lots of good value out there though of course less than before. Here are some very nice Burgundies that I have picked up sub $75 per bottle in the past several months. Premier cru and a couple grand crus with good ageing potential. The Cote de Beaune, Nuits, Corton, and some lesser known producers are the way to go for value.
2008 Simon Bize SLB Vergelesses and Guettes $30
2007 Mugneret Gibourg Nuits Chaignots $47
2006/2007 Ponsot Morey Alouettes $50
2005 L’Arlot Nuits Clos des Forets $55
2005 Joseph Voillot Volnay Fremiets $60
2007 Bachelet Gevrey Corbeaux $60
2006 Follin Arbelet Corton Bressandes $59
1999 Humbert Freres Gevrey Estournelles St Jacques
2001 Barthod Chambolle Veroilles
2007 Arnoux Vosne Chaumes
2008/2010 Bertheau Chambolle 1er Cru
2005 Antonin Guyon Corton Bressandes
Thanks for the list. Where does one pick up 2005 Arlot Clos de Forets for $55. This is a steal!! In general this thread has wondering what is the value range for Burgundy. Is it under $100.
Value defined as getting to 90% of quality (I know this is subjective) for a third of the cost. In Piedmont, an area I know better than Burgundy, I know for $50-$60 there is plenty of good value to be found.
Peter I’ll be interested in hearing about your experience. My belief has been that if you wish to travel “economy-class”, Burgundy may not be the ideal place to visit.
Peters list seems sound to me, and states prices conservatively. I’d be willing to bet you can’t go wrong with the '10 Pavelots. I have had a couple that were excellent. The '10 Meo bourgogne rouge is awesome too. It may only be a regional wine but it was superb nonetheless.
I’ve only had the 2010 Pavelot Savigny Les Beaune Guettes and it was fantastic…and I bought mine around $35 from TCWC, which also has the 11s for about the same coin.
Sappy cherry, cranberry and licorice on the palate with a heavy dose of minerality that comes to the fore on the medium finish. Copious amounts of acidity cleanses the palate. Tannins are fine and unobtrusive. Nice complexity and balance and should improve with time. Throws off a tiny bit of sediment. (91 pts.)
And this '05 was only $65 with restaurant mark-up!
2005 Méo-Camuzet Frère et Sœurs Bourgogne- France, Burgundy, Bourgogne (12/20/2013)
Full-bodied, ripe, and plush - mixing elements of warm California pinot with some funk and velvet of Burgundy. Quite enjoyable and gulpable - $65 off the list at Corduroy. (91 pts.)