Upcoming Virgina Wine Tasting in Santa Rosa

Hey All,

Not sure if this is the proper place to post this, but wanted to invite all of you in the Santa Rosa area to a tasting of Virginia wines that we are hosting next Monday, June 23. The tasting is from 5pm to 7pm at Stark’s Restaurant and includes appetizers from Stark’s.

There are 10 wineries pouring their wines (I can get you the entire list if you are interested but they include some top names such as Early Mountain, Ankida Ridge, Breaux, Veritas…and on and on.

The price is $30…that pays for the food and the glasses, etc. Not a commercial venture for us…we are making no coin off this…just hoping to introduce others to some of these wines (I don’t know of a tasting like this in Sonoma County before).

If you are interested drop me an email at adam@siduri.com.

Thanks,

Adam Lee
Siduri Wines

This should be interesting and will wait to see the results. Please publish the list if possible.

Adam…last summer I was in the Lynmar tasting room and a fellow taster struck up a conversation. Turns out it was Paul Breaux of Breaux Vineyards. His daughter (she heads up the marketing) was with him; they were on a tour of Sonoma. We had a good visit about Virginia wines, most of which I was unfamiliar with. I checked with some Virginia friends and Breaux Vineyards is rated favorably. It is in Purcellville.

Here is who is attending (cut and paste…sorry for any formatting issues)

Stinson Vineyards
Ankida Ridge Vineyards
Chatham Vineyards
Veritas Vineyard & Winery
Breaux Vineyards
Afton Mountain Vineyards
Sunset Hills Vineyards
Early Mountain Vineyards
Barboursville Vineyards
Thibaut-Janisson

Adam Lee
Siduri Wines

The Thibaut-Janisson should open some eyes. Great wine at a good price and something I buy by the case when I can get it. I just checked with my normal source and it is out of stock again which happens way too often these days as more people discover it.

Thanks for the list.

Brian - FWIW, I think the Thibaut-Janisson Blanc de Chardonnay is the best QPR in VA wine. It is a tad sweet but still really a nice drink.

Meeting friends from out of town for dinner and wine in Petaluma but they said Santa Rosa would be OK. Might be able to pull this off.

There is a lot of competence on that list. Barboursville is one of the big dogs of the state, but they consistently produce a quality product.
I like Stinston a lot. A very small producer in a state in which most producers are small. They do unusual things for the area such as playing around with concrete eggs and whatnot. They have a particularly fine rose, usually
I, too, will be curious to see how people enjoy these. I hope someone reports back.

Depending on the format at Starks, I will take some notes (and images) and post on pdwr public page. Kudos to Adam Lee for making this happen.

See you there Doug!

I’m looking forward to you CA resident’s impression of these wines. I haven’t tried them all, but I’m curious what Barboursville is pouring. Their older Octagons are good ringers for St. Julienne, maybe Margaux. Very elegant, Bordeaux styled wines.

Just got home after having dinner following the tasting. My overall take was it was OK. There were a few standouts but 70% of the wines were lacking in mid-palate lift, acidity, or some kind of oomph. They came across flabby and off dry.

Of the off dry wines I really liked the Thibeau-Janisson Sparkling Chardonnay which while a touch sweet had great effervescence. The bubbles were tiny and tight like a Prosecco. Was hoping for some nutty notes but no dice.

Stinson poured a 2011 Tannat that reminded me of Sangiovese and had deep red and black fruit, mouth stripping tannins and showed great structure. Their 2013 Sauv Blanc was the only white of the night with some bright acidity.

Structure was lacking in a lot of the wines tonight but the 2011 Nebbiolo from Barboursville was not one of them. Blackberry, bramble, black cherry and white pepper notes abounded. Great tannic structure to this wine. Stood out in the crowd.

Barboursville also had a 2008 Bordeaux Blend called Octagon that was very enjoyable. A bit fruit forward with deep rich black fruit, black olive notes on the nose and some accompanying licorice. Came across like a high dollar Napa Cab blend. Very well balanced though and showed a good age-ability.

Veritas poured a Chardonnay and a Bordeaux blend both just came across as OK. Was hoping to find some acidity in these wines but it just didn’t happen. Maybe that’s an issue with VA? Many of the pourers were talking about their whites and how they possess such great acidity. I just didn’t get that at all.

Afton Mountain had a 2010. Brut Blanc de Noirs that actually was dry. Unlike all the other whites poured on the evening. Big carbonic bubbles. Nice fruit.

Their 2012 Super Tuscan labeled Festa di Bacco was very ripe and fruity which was weird since it sported 40% Sangiovese. Was a crowd pleaser blend but no wow factor.

Breaux poured a Viognier and a Cab Franc. Lots of Viognier tonight. I asked everyone if they had issues moving a 100% Viognier as it really doesn’t seem to be a great idea. To a man they all said they sell out. Different market. I guess. The 2013 Viognier from Breaux was flabby, has great aromatics but needed something that most Viogniers need. Acidity. They really should have done these as dessert wines in my opinion.
The Breaux 2007 Cab Franc had crazy aromatics, ripe but lean fruit, dark plum and stewed fruit palate and mouth drying tannins.

Ankida Ridge poured a 2013 Chardonnay. Another off dry tasting Chard that just seemed to weigh on the palate. Their 2008 Pinot Noir was interesting with Dark Cherry fruit but needed acidity, ripe fruit, none of the RRV cola or SoCo strawberry but then gain nothing to make it pop. Nice firm tannins though.

There were others but mostly it was more of the same. Lots of Merlot, Cab Franc, lots of flabby Chard and Viognier. Another variety popular in the white blends was Petite Manseng. Early Mountain had a Petite Manseng, Muscat blend that was super sweet. Maybe that’s what the market asks for. Just wasn’t my style.

Overall it was interesting but most of them didn’t fit my flavor profile short if the Nebb, Tannat, and Octagon.

Afterwards we had dinner at Starks and enjoyed a 2012 Ceritas Heintz Chardonnay, 2012 Halcon Esquisto and a 2010 Sandlands Mataro. Head and shoulders above the previous wines. The Ceritas was a incredibly plush and creamy with tart pineapple and green apple notes. Just killed it with our spicy Calamari starter.
Of the two Mourvedres the Sandlands was a winner for me showing a very nice polish to the entire package. The Halcon was much riper and fruitier which surprises me based on the vineyard location. But then again 2012 was one of those fruit years. The Sandlands just drank like a wine that had it all together. Very enjoyable.

Thanks go out to Adam Lee for helping arrange this evening. Saw Doug Wilder for a brief moment but otherwise didn’t see any other familiar faces.

Thanks Brian. Viognier is grown a lot in VA and what you tasted is in the style that most make it. I think some of this is due to early success that Horton had with Viognier but some is also just what the climate/site gives. Not my preference at all. As for the chardonnays, I really can’t comment as I don’t have direct experience with the ones you tried but again many in VA are lacking in acid. The Linden Avenius Chard is a notable exception and the only one that I drink regularly. Petit Manseng is a grape that offers a lot of potential but there is not a lot of experience with it in the area yet. A few have been working with it for a decade plus but they are the exception. The Petit Manseng is of interest as it is a farmers dream that resists mildew and rot better than most whites and does keep acidity when reaching 24 brix which as you noted can be a problem. Most make it semi-sweet but there are some sweet versions and even one or two that are dry.

The Barboursville Octagon and Nebbilolo generally age well and are among the best reds in the state. Quality reds from the area are few and far between so luckily you got to taste a couple.

There is so much Cab Franc being grown as for years that was considered to be the VA signature red (like the Viognier is for whites) but over time people started to figure out it really wasn’t doing as well as expected. Merlot was suppose to have rot problems in our climate but has fared better than expected and ripens relatively early as well so it started to get more widely planted, although Barboursville has been working with it for years even when it was recommended that it not be grown in VA. Petit Verdot is looking like it will end up being the best red in general terms for the state while Cab Sauv is doing well for selected sites. There is some experimentation with non-BdX grapes but with the exception of Barboursville I don’t know of any exceptional examples.

Brian T. is not wrong when he identifies lack of acid as a problem in many VA wines. My guess is that the diurnal range isn’t very high – it just doesn’t get very cool here at night in the summer.

Indeed, Claude Thibaut has started to purchase grapes from New York state that he is blending into his sparkling wines to provide more acidity. This is part of the experiment he is doing with his extra brut – just a small percentage, though, my understanding is that there is still enough VA wine in it that it is labeled as being from Virginia.

Brian - thanks for the impressions. I think you hit it on the head - VA wines tend to be 1. usually lacking in the midpalate and/or acidity, 2. Inconsistent across the board, and 3. Have trouble competiting for the $$$. With that being said, in 10-15 years, I think they will be much more compeititive. There is lots of tourism $$ at play here, which should allow others to keep marching forward.

Thanks for sharing.

I was thinking the same thing about them finding their stride. Most of them were doing concrete egg, stainless steel, no or neutral oak. Maybe one needs to experiment with lower brix and see what the resulting pH ends up being. They were here more to tour CA wineries and talk with winemakers and farmers here to get some ideas on where to go moving forward than to promote their wines. They have the right idea.

VA simply does not have the soils or diurnal range necessary for appropriate acidity. I also think the humidity levels are way too high. I thought the TJ sparkling chard would be a hit. Unfortunately the pricing has crept up to the point that it is $28-$29 here in VA. Quickly losing it’s QPR appeal.

The Thibaut Janisson sparkler I had at dinner here recently was the best VA wine I had had in a very long time. That isn’t much of a standard, as the complaints made above are for the most part very accurate, but it was nice to enjoy a wine from my home state for a change.

I want VA wines to compete in quality and QPR with great wines of the world. They aren’t there yet, and I don’t know that they ever will be.

I have been following VA wines over twenty years and I can’t say the quality has improved significantly while the number of producers has. Some of the whites are quite good, especially Linden but still almost all of them do not represent good QPR. My good friend went to a VA winery and loved the viognier that he bought two cases at almost $30 per bottle. Most of the wineries sell a lot of wines via wine festivals as well as weddings and other functions held at the winery where they are able to get the full retail plus.