Ultramarine - Discussion on Recent Vintages

Cackling from the fact that almost all the high scores of this vintage are from abroad. In my head it’s straight up cope because praising the wine with potato water and ethereal bell peppers is so unserious.

Thank you for the sentiments!

Yeah, I don’t quite get the whole burying your head in the sand and hoping it all goes away thing.

Our NYE was definitely not ruined. My wife still enjoyed the non-Champagne French sparkling rose I had as a backup. Unfortunately I can’t remember specifically what it was.

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Makes me think flawed would be an interesting CT metric; some sort of index relative to a norm. Especially if it’s not contributing to scores.

@Eric_LeVine

Flawed means a lot of things, we know this. Yet if above a norm, someone should read reviews a bit more. Get grounded in what’s going on.

Click on a score in our desktop site, and we show the percent marked as flawed.
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The only thing I would add here is that if somebody does mark down a wine as flawed, in their comments, they should explain what they mean rather than just making that statement. That would be helpful as well.

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This wine is a tricky one, as it’s so bad it’s easy to call it flawed. But which flaw is it? I gave it a generous 65 points and made a comment that I couldn’t identify which flaw would cause it, even though it’s hard to imagine someone would actually release that kind of swill on purpose.

Is it flawed or just a very poorly made wine?

If it’s in pretty much every bottle and thevwinrmaker stands behindbit, it’s not flawed, it’s showing as intended.

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So if a wine has noticable VA or brett or mousiness, and it’s in pretty much every bottle, would these then not be considered flaws?

Cheers

I seriously wonder if it was fine at disgorgement (do people test taste the wine being disgorged?) and something went very wrong with the dosage/topping up.

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I also thought poorly made was the most likely scenario. Just a guess.

I just opened two 2015 blanc de blancs. I have previous notes with great scores. First bottle, cork came out with no “psssst” and wine was flat. Acidic nose and other weird aromatics. Sour in the mouth and undrinkable. Second bottle had a pop and good bubbles, but round and rather one dimensional so while this particular bottling was highly regarded, I’d say “drink soon”.

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