U.S. Surgeon General Calls for Cancer Warnings on Alcohol

If it’s a really big spoon…maybe :sunglasses:

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I would guess so, but I would still think that impact of microplastics should have a far greater sense of urgency about it. Not to diminish the impact of cancer on anyone.

But there are plenty of things that have been studied for some time that are far more likely to have a negative health impact that are not being addressed with news articles and warning labels.

One of the most eye opening aspects of the pandemic for me was air quality. I live in a small town in Oregon with some of the best air quality in the country (excepting 3-4 weeks in 2020), but when we were in lockdown, even here the air was noticeably much cleaner. For most of us our base level existence is living in a significant level of air pollution. Both gasoline and diesel powered vehicles produce chemicals in their exhaust that cause cancer, and while only a fool would think we can get by without cars and trucks, working to reduce fossil fuel exhaust in urban areas would probably do as much for lowering cancer rates as a ban on alcohol would.

I don’t think my rant here is about the recent research on alcohol and cancer as much as it is about the weird way leadership prioritizes recognizing hazards.

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Cancer is a long term disease. It takes many years to develop. So if you haven’t been studying something for a long time, you don’t have enough data to make a conclusion one way or another. That’s why things are thought to be OK, like DES as mkaplan said earlier, turn out to be carcinogenic. I think it’s likely microplastics and PFAs are bad for people’s health, but there just isn’t enough long term data.

I am feeling conflicted.

Here we are on this thread talking about wine giving drinkers cancer, but at the same time we have been growing a thread about how to attract younger members.

Are you sure we should be talking about this ‘in front of the kids?’

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Great now you’re starting yet another argument. That will bring them in. :cheers:

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Of course we should. Younger drinkers should be thinking about these risks the most.

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Your sense of humor is off.

That’s like self-flagellation, but without the scars to show for it.

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The Economist has also weighed in on this discussion:

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“For all but the most risk-tolerant, the middle-class habit of downing half a bottle of wine with dinner is worth examining.” Not every day I guess.

Even the articles whose point is to assert the social/happiness benefits of alcohol consumption have to make sure to cover themselves by reminding readers “of course anyone who drinks more than a little should definitely cut down.” Can’t be perceived as encouraging people to drink more than a little every now and then. I get it.

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As an alternative to the risks of drinking wine, I guess, this shows up in my news feed today:

But is it more preferred by boomer stoners, or youngsters? :grinning: Enjoy your dry January!

Went to see live music last night, NOLA keyboard virtuoso Keiko Komaki was in town. Saw a group of four about my age leave the bar and walk across the street to blow a doobie, which is crazy illegal to do here.

Guessing they were tourists. Two in the group drinking mineral water once back inside enjoying the show.

We used to call that “cotton mouth” :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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