Wow, the price points for Cattleya seem great!
The article made me jones for pinot noir and tinned fish, so a side thanks to Nola for my stock on hand!
Thanks for that link.
Wow, the price points for Cattleya seem great!
The article made me jones for pinot noir and tinned fish, so a side thanks to Nola for my stock on hand!
Thanks for that link.
That is her entry level pinot and it is one of the best values around.
Just checked my CT and seems their is a 2018 Cattleya Syrah The Initiation Soberanes Vineyard somewhere in the cellar. No Pinot but is a single and the general info has me interested.
Adam Lee, Jim Anderson and I can form a club. Clendenen and I made Oregon and California Pinot from 1992 until 2012. The rest of you can look in and be jealous.
I used to think that California was more ‘regular’ whereas Oregon fruit had its ups and downs. Great one year, just ok the next. With climate change…who knows?? We have gone from Halloween harvests to forest fires in ten years.
Don’t forget Manfred Krankl.
Hey J no offense meant if any taken. The early popcorn emoji reply was spot on as a predictor of where it was going to to and it’s been the most entertaining thread this week
I’m surprised by your top two–I find them very different and much prefer Littorai, though it’s been a while since I’ve had any Marcassin.
As to the others, beside many that have been mentioned–Rhys, Kutch, Rochioli (sluttier, I know), old ABC, Williams-Selyem (which I never bought consistently owing to price), Peay, Calera (which I found consistently impressive), Joseph Swan, Ceritas, Arcadian (though I don’t like as much as others love)–I might add from the old days, Foxen, and newer Fogline, which deserves more love than it gets it imho.
Thanks for the heads up. I should have paid more attention on BD15, but I’ve been going really light due to no more space. (Not too much wine. There is never too much wine). I visited your website after Corey’s note.
I sold lots of barrels to Manfred but never got to visit, taste or buy. I didn’t know he made Pinot
Well…it was called Pinot.
not a name I associate with typical CA Pinot (and didn’t he source all his grapes from Oregon?)
His last Pinot bottling was California fruit. 2005 Over & Out was made with Santa Rita Hills fruit.
not offended at all.
And I do appreciate the active responses from the forum.
Such as what? Not liking someone completely misrepresenting things I said?
Not Adam, but I don’t think they really changed style. It’s just that some vintages were too hot. The advice for people didn’t like riper Pinot was to do their research and avoid certain years. The question would be if they learned to deal with that better. I would assume so, as much as they’re capable.
Not arguing with you Wes. I don’t like mud that much.
And according to the Prince of Pinot he made 8 vintages from the Shea Vineyard. I would be curious to try one of those to see how they aged.
I’ve just been getting into West Coast Pinot over the past year but was surprised no-one else had mentioned Peter Michael. I’ve found their Sonoma Coast Pinots to be fantastic.
Pretty much right. Josh didn’t want to change his style but he had to make adjustments. Thos e were already well under way in 2011 - so it was before then. One of the things that is often forgotten about the World of Pinot Noir seminar on alcohol and balance is Josh lamenting that climate change had made his area warmer and drier and they were struggling with alcohols. – I haven’t been to Calera is some time but I’d think adequate water and more irrigation would have helped. We were (are) all still learning.
Adam Lee
Clarice Wine Company
The one time he tasted at our winery he quasi-accused us of adding Syrah to our 2001 Pinots Noirs.