TN: When will this Burgundy open?

[Howard_Davis]

Tasting the excellent 2007 (TNs: Two Burgundies drinking very well now ... - WINE TALK - WineBerserkers) encouraged me to open the 2006.

2006 Faiveley Corton-Clos des Cortons Faiveley
Full decant before dinner. Drunk over two nights. Colour impenetrable deep red. Bouquet a little muted. Black fruited: blackberry and black cherry. Also notes of wet soil, sous bois, underbrush and some spice. On the palate, very primary and brooding, huge structure, very closed. Earthy, forest floor and mushroom flavours, very dense with great mid palate weight. On the next night it had, if anything, shut down further. This needs a minimum of 10 years before you would get anything out of it, but I don’t know if that will be long enough. 91.

[BrianMarshall]

I had a similar experience with an '06 Jadot Les Fuees last week. From what I’ve seen the village level wines are drinking pretty well now however the few 1er Cru that I’ve tried have been closed, with one or two exceptions. I’d assume the same is probably true for GC.

[Jeremy_Holmes]

Never

[Dennis_Atick]

I used to think Faiveley Corton was just eh, until I was wowed by the '93 a few times in the past couple years. '96 was starting to show some life last year as well.
Patience on Faiveley Corton is a must.
Your 10 additional years might be enough.

[Gerhard_P]

@Howard Davis

2006 Faiveley Corton-Clos des Cortons Faiveley
…This needs a minimum of 10 years before you would get anything out of it, but I don’t know if that will be long enough. 91.

The youngest Faiveley Corton I would call kind of “mature” was the 1992 last fall …
so my estimate is “from 2028 onwards” - better 2032+ …

[Howard_Davis]

Jeremy, just a vintage thing or not a fan generally?

Dennis and Gerhard, that’s what I thought (feared). The 2007 lulled me into a false sense of security, but that is presumably very atypical for this wine?

[Peter_Baird]

@Dennis Atick

I used to think Faiveley Corton was just eh, until I was wowed by the '93 a few times in the past couple years. '96 was starting to show some life last year as well.
Patience on Faiveley Corton is a must.
Your 10 additional years might be enough.

Does that mean I can start opening '96s?!?

[Dennis_Atick]

Aren’t many '07s showing well young?
In general.
I defer to those who drink more Burg than me, but I think the mantra is '07s, more than most other recent vintages, are drinking well young. The few I have had were open.

[Dennis_Atick]

@Peter Baird

@Dennis Atick

I used to think Faiveley Corton was just eh, until I was wowed by the '93 a few times in the past couple years. '96 was starting to show some life last year as well.
Patience on Faiveley Corton is a must.
Your 10 additional years might be enough.

Does that mean I can start opening '96s?!?

I was actually thinking of opening one this week.
I’ll report back if I do.

[dcornutt]

I had a glorious but youthful 2006 Musigny from Prieur recently. Stunning aromatics and texture. Before that however I had a HARD as rocks Richbourg from Hudelot. UGH! The Grand Crus with a few exceptions need some pretty significant time it seems. This is a pretty structured vintage in several locations. That Faiveley probably needs more than several years to get into that real sweet spot. FWIW.

[Fred_C]

@dcornutt

I had a glorious but youthful 2006 Musigny from Prieur recently. Stunning aromatics and texture. Before that however I had a HARD as rocks Richbourg from Hudelot. UGH! The Grand Crus with a few exceptions need some pretty significant time it seems. This is a pretty structured vintage in several locations. That Faiveley probably needs more than several years to get into that real sweet spot. FWIW.

Hey Don, are you referring to the 06 HN Richebourg? I have a few of thems would appreciate a note! Thanks!

[Gerhard_P]

@Dennis Atick

@Peter Baird

@Dennis Atick

I used to think Faiveley Corton was just eh, until I was wowed by the '93 a few times in the past couple years. '96 was starting to show some life last year as well.
Patience on Faiveley Corton is a must.
Your 10 additional years might be enough.

Does that mean I can start opening '96s?!?

I was actually thinking of opening one this week.
I’ll report back if I do.

I would say that the odds for real accessability of CdCF 96 are 1 : 10

[JLu]

@Dennis Atick

@Peter Baird

@Dennis Atick

I used to think Faiveley Corton was just eh, until I was wowed by the '93 a few times in the past couple years. '96 was starting to show some life last year as well.
Patience on Faiveley Corton is a must.
Your 10 additional years might be enough.

Does that mean I can start opening '96s?!?

I was actually thinking of opening one this week.
I’ll report back if I do.

I am also curious to hear how the 1996 Faiveley Clos des Cortons is doing. I have a bottle standing up, waiting with a few other 96’s for a horizontal tasting, but haven’t pulled the trigger yet given mixed reports on how open the 96’s are.

[Peter_Chiu]

Prieur’s Musigny is my favouriet Musigny because it does not hurt that much to open one.

Roumier and Muginier…sounds like church bell ringing in Chambolle.

BTW…there is a big difference ( in the signutre of the house style ) between a Faiveley’s Mercurey – Le Framboisieres from vintage 2005 and 2006.

[Howard_Davis]

Jeff, be sure to post a TN if you do pull the trigger on your '96.

Cheers, Howard

[Andrew_Harrison]

Does anyone have an opinion on the 2010 Faiveley Clos des Cortons? Will it shut down like the 2006? I ask because the 2010 red Burgs that I have been tasting seem to have remained remarkably open to date.

[brodie_thomson]

@Howard Davis

2006 Faiveley Corton-Clos des Cortons Faiveley
Full decant before dinner. Drunk over two nights. Colour impenetrable deep red. Bouquet a little muted. Black fruited: blackberry and black cherry. Also notes of wet soil, sous bois, underbrush and some spice. On the palate, very primary and brooding, huge structure, very closed. Earthy, forest floor and mushroom flavours, very dense with great mid palate weight. On the next night it had, if anything, shut down further. This needs a minimum of 10 years before you would get anything out of it, but I don’t know if that will be long enough. 91.

Hi Howard, thanks for the note. Not surprised but still… I have a full case of this. I will need to give a very long sleep. Maybe try a bottle when I am 70!

Cheers Brodie

[Jeremy_Holmes]

It was made just before the change of style Chez Faiveley. They made very good, dense 06’s, I suspect it will be somewhere close to its apogee in 3 to 4 decades Howard.

Best Regards
Jeremy

[dcornutt]

@Fred C

@dcornutt

I had a glorious but youthful 2006 Musigny from Prieur recently. Stunning aromatics and texture. Before that however I had a HARD as rocks Richbourg from Hudelot. UGH! The Grand Crus with a few exceptions need some pretty significant time it seems. This is a pretty structured vintage in several locations. That Faiveley probably needs more than several years to get into that real sweet spot. FWIW.

Hey Don, are you referring to the 06 HN Richebourg? I have a few of thems would appreciate a note! Thanks!

Fred,
Yes. The 06 Hudelot Richebourg. It is hard as a rock right now to me. I opened one a few weeks ago. It wasn’t showing much based on the great wine that it will become.

[Robert.Fleming]

The 1990 Faiveley Clos des Cortons started coming out of its shell 3-4 years ago, and was beautiful in December 2013. FWIW.