TN: A delicious dinner in Brooklyn.

Some wines last night at the home of Suzanne Camhi and Kenny Shusterman in beautiful and historic Brooklyn Heights. Suzanne and Kenny cooked up a delicious feast and the evening was made complete with the company of the always delightful Karrie and Mark Russo. Thanks for a great evening!

Brad

Didn’t jot down notes on the '01 Montrachet we started with, or a '07 Roulot- Monthelie we had as the first red. Neither did all that much for me.

2002 Domaine de la Romanée-Conti- Échézeaux
Showing rather unevolved. Pure cherries and strawberry dominate with good acid levels and full tannins, but it’s showing no secondary development whatsoever. The sweetness and focus of the fruit is thoroughly enjoyable, though this was certainly killing a baby. I believe this was double decanted earlier in the afternoon. A rare treat. Many thanks to Suzanne for opening one up in the name of science, but hold, hold, hold! A-.

1978 Oddero- Barolo
Initially the wine was dominated by earthy, leathery and licorice components and while fine in an old, perhaps slightly tired way, there was no real spark here. That all changed the longer it stayed in the glass. Though it had been double decanted in the afternoon, it still took about an hour in the glass for the wine to come alive. Without warning, beautiful cherry/raspberry fruit came out of nowhere to take the lead and melded all the components into a beautiful package. Solid A-.

1995 Peyre Rose- Coteaux du Languedoc “Clos des Cistes”
My last bottle of this wine and it showed brilliantly. A blend of 85% Syrah and 15% Grenache, it’s spent much of the past 14 years being rather tough and gamey, though in a good way. Tonight it was just singing. Fully integrated and dare I say silky, something I never would’ve expected from this wine. The raspberry fruit was sweet, but not jammy and at the forefront with game, earth, licorice and light spiciness backing it up. Just a perfect match with the lamb. The only negative was that after being open a couple of hours the fruit receded and the wine got more tannic and coarse. I’d start to drink up. It’s in a gorgeous spot right now. Low A.

1996 Baumard- Quarts de Chaume (from 375 ml)
Opened my last half bottle of this to see where it was in its evolution. Still fresh and vibrant, though it’s lost some of the youthful mélange of yellow fruits and is more in the apricot range of things. Just starting to take on light hints of earl grey tea, with plenty of honey and candied kumquats. Intensely sweet, though the beauty of '96’s from the Loire are their razor sharp acidity that keeps everything in check. Beautiful wine. No rush on these, especially if it’s in 750 ml. Solid A.


Some pictures from the evening:

The hosts with the most.

Karrie & Mark.

A delicious starter.

Suzanne brings out the lamb.

Good eats!

Suzanne and her NY Times plum cake.

Btw, for those keeping score at home, the Montrachet was the '01 Jacques Prieur. Suzanne opened it because she was starting to worry about the color. It was indeed starting to darken and showed slightly advanced. The wine was pleasant enough with some citrus and mineral flavors along with a touch of nuttiness. Fairly elegant in the mouth, but I tend to find Chardonnay pretty boring and I didn’t like the oak in it, though it wasn’t too overly done. Fine, but nothing to write home about. Call it a B+/B.

Hi Brad,

Had almost the exact same experience with the '78 Oddero in Germany last fall- seemed past its best for quite a while after it was poured, only to finally blossom and drink really very nicely after it awoke. Interesting note on the Peyre Rose '95 Clos des Cistes- a wine I liked a lot out of the blocks but did not keep any around long enough to see how it would eventually turn out. Your note about its surprisingly silky texture would have come as quite a shock to me, given how chewy this was early on. Did it retain that really striking stony base of soil over the fourteen years of bottle evolution? Wonder who brought the Baunard '96 :slight_smile: It is going to be very interesting to handicap the top '97s versus the top '96s in the field of Loire chenin as the years go by- I am liking the '96s more and more with every year and really think they are going to be the more interesting vintage in the long run.

Best,

John

I’m actually surprised to hear you say that, John as every other Loirehead I know has preferred '96 Chenin to '97 due to the '96’s precision (less botrytis) and razor sharp acidity versus '97’s higher alcohol levels, lower acidity and greater botrytis character. Really, it hasn’t been a contest between all our mutual friends as to which vintage they prefer. That said, a lot of the fatness of the '97’s have been whittled away by time revealing more structure than I think most folks realized was underneath.

Vouvray is the only region where I think one may give pause as to a preference as since the get go it it handled the heat better than any other Chenin region, imo. It just depends on your style preference. Personally, I like '97 and '96 from Huet equally, it just depends on my mood as to what I’d prefer from one particular moment to the next, but I’m a Gemini and that’s how I roll. There’s only one Loire Chenin producer who I find made a better '97 than '96 and that’s Foreau. They made some really special wines in '97 from Demi-Sec up to their Moelleux Reserve. I found they underperformed a bit in '96.

All that said, in many instances I prefer '95’s to '96 or '97 because it incorporates the best off both worlds. They have some of the botrytis and roundness of '97, but also some of the precision of '96. It’s a nice balance.

Cheers,

Brad

Hi Brad,

Have not had the '96 and '97 Foreau wines, so I cannot comment on them- would make a good flight in a tasting, no?- if some of us could get our schedules worked out and get one on the calendar :wink: As I said I am still on the fence between the two vintages for the long haul and will find them interesting to track, as I think there will be a lot of really good '97s out there in another fifteen or twenty years. My own palate preference will probably settle on the '96s though for the reasons you enumerated, but I like the direction that the few '97s I have tasted of late are moving in and am hopeful of their showing a bit more cut and soil at their apogees. Your point about the '95s was also very well taken.

Best,

John

Brad–Don’t know if you saw it, but I opened a half bottle of the 96 Baumard QdC last week at our Burgundy dinner.

Bruce

I had a 2002 DRC Echezeaux that was outstanding last year.

when you say outstanding…Please elaborate.

Our bottle was lovely, just simple and not showing any secondary characteristics

It was wide open for business and absolutely delicious.

Yeah, yeah. It’s not like I haven’t been trying to get you, Josh and the usual loireheads together for a Foreau-a-thon for what, the past four or so years? [swearing.gif]

Maybe the next time you’re in the Loire you can see if you can bring back one of those '47 Foreaus? You know how hard it is to find older vintages here…

Brad

Hey Bruce-

Sorry, I hadn’t seen it until now. To be honest, I tend to skip almost all Burgundy threads since they’re really not my thing.

Seems like your bottle might’ve been a little more advanced than mine. While it’s certainly showing more mature in half than 750, there’s really no rush with them at all, imo.

Cheers,

Brad