Notes a bit sparse on the 2021 so far, so thanks for sharing. I’ve got a case of this tucked away for my son.
Cool. thanks. And I did a typo, myself (!) – I have none of the '10, but am sitting on some '20 (well, technically, my '20’s are still pending, but that’s fine, as I likely wouldn’t even consider touching them for another few years).
EDIT: correction: actually, it appears I didn’t have a typo after all — my post got changed in your quote. No biggie. Just nice to know this isn’t the sign-of-the-moment that I’m losing it. 
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For what it’s worth, I think the ‘14 is awesome. Have had it several times over the last 5 years and find it has really started to open up in the last few years in particular.
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that’s great to hear, because I have a bottle at home that I’ve been eyeing the past couple months. In fact, steaks are lined-up for dinner tonight … 
I hope it’s not a filet. Good Lord
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while I haven’t had all of these vintages, I’ve had the 2014 a lot and love it. not at the bottom of the list for me. A great wine.
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I thoroughly enjoyed a bottle of the 2012 on Thursday night, it is beginning to drink beautifully and I would entirely recommend trying one now if you have a few. I’ll also agree with Lasse that the 2016 (drunk last year) is super impressive.
Ultimately, I pivoted to a 2004 Clos des Papes, which I felt was much more in need of drinking than the Jamet. So the Jamet lives to die another day!
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I sincerely hope that wine shows better for you than it did for me last fall. Hopefully I just had an off bottle, but it had not held up well
It was good, but was yet another tally mark in the “apparently I like my CdPs on the younger side” column — something I’ve been learning and slowly accepting over the past 2 to 3 years. I think aged CdP just is what it is, generally speaking. And I’m not liking it more than the brighter fruitier younger versions.
Lesson learned.
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I have made a similar discovery about Chateauneuf as well.
Some of the ‘04s have fared better than others for my tastes though.
Which have you enjoyed recently-ish?
Pegau, Clos des Papes runs a little hot.
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From ‘04, we had the Pegau and Beaucastel side-by-side back in April and the Pegau was still in a good spot with good freshness. Beaucastel, oddly felt a bit flat with a pronounced fig note. Felt like it hadn’t aged well which is weird to say for a Beaucastel.
The Vieux Donjon and Vieux Telegraphe were fine. Just would have preferred them younger.
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That was a nice summary on an overall interesting discussion here, but my take is some are not as factual by taking each point alone.
Firstly, in their base and most popular Cote-Rotie, JP (Jean-Paul) currently obtain grapes from less parcels today (i.e. 20 as per the website) than in the 90’s when they had up to 25 parcels from both Cote Blonde and Cote Brune lands, as described to me by Corinne during a winery visit several years ago.
Pure guess here, but the split with Jean-Luc may have something to do with re-allocation of the parcels and hence the change in numbers.
Secondly, JP does not rack at all and relies on gravity and other means to clarify their wines.
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It’s not material to the JP discussion, but I’ll throw it in nonetheless, for comparative purposes. I recently had a (JL) Jean-Luc Jamet Cote Rotie ‘Terrasses’ 2016, my first ever from his property and it left a nice impression. Here’s the link.
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I did a side by side comparison of the 2014 JL and JP wines a few years ago and concluded they both ended up with ample holdings to produce brilliant wines.
Curious if anyone else has had some of the more recent JL wines.
That’s great. the 14 was too volatile for me and I sold all of mine, maybe I should have held onto one for science.
Which vintages do you put below 14?
Hi Brent,
My takeaway at tasting the two was the differences between the 2004 Pegau and Beaucastel could be attributed in large part by cepage, with Pegau apparantley having a much higher Grenache component and Beaucastel having a significant Mourvedre component.
I am just now asking Claude for the cepage on the two wines. The answer does accord with my feeling at the time (fwiw): “Pégau is a classic Grenache-forward CdP (~80% Grenache), while Beaucastel is the outlier that puts Mourvèdre on equal footing with Grenache (30/30), which is part of why it ages so differently — more structure and savory/meaty character earlier, less pure Grenache fruit.”
To me the figginess (whether you like it or not) is from the Mourvedre, darker fruit profile.
My opinion on the 04 Pegau was that tit certainly had bright red fruit freshness but also the alcohol was sticking out. Absolutely different styles of wines so it was highly educational (to me) to sample side by side.
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Ha! I had the '04 Beaucastel about a month and a half ago, and was not impressed; like you, I was surprised. Also like you: I think the '04 Pegau is great.
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Got around to opening the ‘21 last night. A great early drinking vintage IMHO and in that sense as delicious as a ‘21 Gonon I had earlier this year. Quite a bit going on - Raspberry/blackberry, just ripe red plum, black pepper, herbs with hints of roasted meats, black olive and violet. However, less tannic and slightly less concentrated than the ‘23 from last week (and definitely less so than the ‘19 I had about a year ago). Fanny mentioned not to touch bottles 7-13 yrs old as that’s when they typically shut down but I’m not sure that will be the case with ‘21s. That being said, I have a couple bottles at home and might look for some more once I get back.
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